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| Remembrance Day | |
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| Topic Started: Thursday, 10. November 2011, 02:25 (375 Views) | |
| moderator team | Thursday, 10. November 2011, 02:25 Post #1 |
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Please will all members observe 2 minutes forum silence, for prayer and commemoration, commencing at 11 am on the 11th of November, and again at 11 on Remembrance Sunday. Let us honour in addition to those who lost their lives in two World Wars: Service personnel and civilians who have died as a result of war at any time in any place, including those killed in accidents or on exercise. Members of support services such as police and ambulance crews. Civilians who died as a result of military action. May they rest in peace. May their loved ones find comfort and strength. |
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| Penfold | Friday, 11. November 2011, 22:16 Post #2 |
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| Penfold | Wednesday, 7. November 2012, 21:05 Post #3 |
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Heading down to London tomorrow to prepare for remembrance day observance. As each year passes sadly the list of names grows longer. Please pray for all who have died to ensure Our Freedom and pray also for those who have been left, wounded in mind or in body, the widows, widowers and orphans. the brothers and sisters and all who grieve the loss of a friend and loved one. We will remember them Edited by Penfold, Wednesday, 7. November 2012, 21:35.
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| Derekap | Wednesday, 7. November 2012, 21:10 Post #4 |
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Indeed! |
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| Penda | Friday, 9. November 2012, 11:03 Post #5 |
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At the going down of the sun and in the morning I will remember Them BTW this year 11th November is on a Sunday. |
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| Rose of York | Sunday, 11. November 2012, 00:08 Post #6 |
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I have personally known three RAF men who were killed in peacetime accidents. Three men in my parish lost their lives when they served in the army, as national servicemen, on anti terrorist duties in the fifties. This year's Festival of Remembrance was the finest yet, a fitting tribute to the ones I knew and the millions I never knew. All that remains to be said is MAY THEY REST IN PEACE. |
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| Deleted User | Sunday, 11. November 2012, 00:27 Post #7 |
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I agree with all of the foregoing posts. Could we also remember the Kenyan veterans--see recent High Court judgement--who suffered rape, castration and other atrocities at the hands of British troops, the Malaysian villagers massacred by the Scots Guards, the Iraqi man beaten to death by British soldiers to mention just a few. Let us acknowledge that war makes savages of all nations, is not noble or uplifting and when we honour our dead we should not glorify the process John |
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| Rose of York | Sunday, 11. November 2012, 00:49 Post #8 |
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John the people you mention are included. We who personally lost family members in the armed forces do not glorify armed conflict. We weep and pray. |
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| James | Sunday, 11. November 2012, 00:51 Post #9 |
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Amen. |
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| Penfold | Sunday, 11. November 2012, 00:56 Post #10 |
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John there is no glory in war and no veteran I have ever worked with or met would wish to deny the horror of war, We honour the fallen and I for one am grateful that I enjoy the liberty to be able to post on this Catholic Forum for if others had not stepped up to the mark when asked I very much doubt I would be able to do so. In war there are some who act with dishonour and they will be called to account, if not in this life then in the next but the overwhelming majority are ordinary folk who manage to survive extraordinary events and when required gave their all for the freedom of others, those others include you and me. This weekend I remember all who have died in war and give thanks for the sacrifice made by those who paid the price for the freedom we now enjoy. I have buried to many friends to consider your remarks any thing other than an ignorant and offensive attack on the honour of people who you lack the integrity to thank for your freedom was paid for by them. Edited by Penfold, Sunday, 11. November 2012, 00:58.
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| James | Sunday, 11. November 2012, 01:03 Post #11 |
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Penfold, I think you miss John's point. All common people suffer and die as well. regardless of sides James We pray for them all including enemy acting under orders and against their inner wills Edited by James, Sunday, 11. November 2012, 01:12.
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| Rose of York | Sunday, 11. November 2012, 01:09 Post #12 |
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John there are people on this forum who were bereaved by war. We have at least one war orphan who reads the forum (not one of the regular posting members) and this evening I personally shed a couple of tears over a personal bereavement. Do you honestly think we need reminding to pray for men who comitted atrocities, whatever nation they belonged to? They have souls, they are our brothers and sisters in Christ. Initially I was deeply hurt by your insensivity towards people who feel personal sorrow at this time of Remembrance. I have changed my mind. You made a prat of yourself. Nothing will take away my gratitude to the men and women who saved the human race from domination by persons of ill intent. The people who caused wars are our brethren, with souls deserving of prayer. If you find my comment objectionable, you are welcome to click the Report button. |
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| Penfold | Sunday, 11. November 2012, 01:19 Post #13 |
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On the contrary I got his point and find it offensive. If John or your self wish to open a thread to discuss the ethics of war or the conduct of the British Armed forces then you are free to do so, however this thread is to honour the fallen. Nothing else no glorification of war or recriminations for actions committed by friend or foe. It is a moment in the year when we pause and give thanks for the sacrifice of others and honour the dead. |
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| James | Sunday, 11. November 2012, 01:28 Post #14 |
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No thanks Penfold. This is another type of discussion. We all know suffering. Even the enemy families suffering in war and we are supposed to be christian and , in time, try to understand the suffering everywhere. This is still raw with you. The Queen went to Ireland to show christian charity with those of the "enemy" who suffered, Deep spirtiual stuff regarding healing. I may not be posting anymore on this forum. I know your involvement - but you are a priest. I do not think there is anything on this forum for me anymore. James Edited by James, Sunday, 11. November 2012, 01:29.
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| Rose of York | Sunday, 11. November 2012, 01:38 Post #15 |
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I join Penfold in honouring the dead. Just for the record, I have prayed for the souls of Luftwaffe aircrew who are buried in village churchyards in Lincolnshire. I respect the local people who care for those graves. It was I who drafted the opening post of this topic, one year ago. This topic was never intended for an argument of any sort or for drawing attention to misdeeds of service personel of any nation, British or otherwise. PEACE! RESPECT! |
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