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Theologians
Topic Started: Sunday, 17. January 2010, 01:59 (630 Views)
Rose of York
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Instruction on the ecclesial vocation of the theologian

What exactly do theologians do, and how do they do it? The Church has the fullness of truth. Do theologians seek more truth?
Keep the Faith!

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PJD

"Do theologians seek more truth?"

Rose:

Since being snowed in for a while and having for a time to enlarge text so as to read it more efficiently, I printed out the Catholic Encyclopaedia text relating to Dogmatic Theology and started reading it. Haven't finished yet, but early in the text is the following statement/or opinion if you wish. It does provide you with the answer i.e. 'yes they do seek more truth' - more precisely an improvement in methods of explaining basic dogmatic truths - (not inventing more). I thought you would be interested.

"But since the Aristotelo-scholastic philosophy also is capable of continual development, there is reason to expect for the future a progressive improvement of speculative theology"

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Anne-Marie

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Sunday, 17. January 2010, 10:25
"Do theologians seek more truth?"

"But since the Aristotelo-scholastic philosophy also is capable of continual development, there is reason to expect for the future a progressive improvement of speculative theology"
Speculative being, of course, the operative word.
Because they have not got any more of a clue than the rest of us!
Anne-Marie
FIAT VOLUNTAS DEI
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PJD

Point taken as you have just indicated immediately above Anne-Marie.

But even scientists have to speculate before advancing.

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Ned

Rose of York
Sunday, 17. January 2010, 01:59
Instruction on the ecclesial vocation of the theologian

... The Church has the fullness of truth. ......
Hi Rose,

I've just copied this from that Vatican document you quoted: "In this way, it aims to serve the growth in understanding of the truth (cf. Col 1:10) which ushers us into that freedom which Christ lied and rose to win for us (cf. Gal 5:1)."

Why should it be me that spots that?

How closely do other people read these documents?

Do people even take these things seriously?

Is this some Vatican smart-alec's idea of a joke?

Regards

Ned
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Anne-Marie

Ned
Monday, 18. January 2010, 12:49
I've just copied this from that Vatican document you quoted: "In this way, it aims to serve the growth in understanding of the truth (cf. Col 1:10) which ushers us into that freedom which Christ lied and rose to win for us (cf. Gal 5:1)."

Is this some Vatican smart-alec's idea of a joke?
Oh help!
Perhaps you should email the Papal nuncio about it, fast?

The moment some smart alec picks up on this, it really won't be funny.
Anne-Marie
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Ned

Anne-Marie
Monday, 18. January 2010, 14:14
The moment some smart alec picks up on this, it really won't be funny.
I don't have that email address, Anne-Marie, but I know someone who does, and I've emailed him.

I hope something gets done. I don't have much hope it will be done soon.

On the 20th March last year I emailed a bishop pointing out the unfortunate phrase 'TRIBUTE OF THE HOLY FATHER TO THE STATUE OF MARY IMMACULATE CONCEPTION' on the Vatican website.

It's still there. And there are anti-Catholic websites using that to demonstrate us as idol-worshippers.
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Joseph

None of us are perfect are we?

Not even the Vatican :bl:
Joseph
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PJD

"None of us are perfect are we? "

Very true Joseph.

Especially I suspect - paid lay translators.

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Anne-Marie

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Monday, 18. January 2010, 22:31
"None of us are perfect are we? "

Very true Joseph.
Especially I suspect - paid lay translators.
Are you refering to them not understanding the difference twixt singular and plural? :wh:
Anne-Marie
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Joseph

Pedant! :bl: ;)
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Can we therefore assume that if everything was in Latin alone, and not translated, there would never be any mistakes?

:tc:
Edited by Derekap, Tuesday, 19. January 2010, 16:27.
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James
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Anne-Marie
Monday, 18. January 2010, 14:14
Ned
Monday, 18. January 2010, 12:49
I've just copied this from that Vatican document you quoted: "In this way, it aims to serve the growth in understanding of the truth (cf. Col 1:10) which ushers us into that freedom which Christ lied and rose to win for us (cf. Gal 5:1)."

Is this some Vatican smart-alec's idea of a joke?
Oh help!
Perhaps you should email the Papal nuncio about it, fast?

The moment some smart alec picks up on this, it really won't be funny.
Freudian slip - no doubt. : :bl:
http://www.answers.com/topic/freudian-slip-
Edited by James, Tuesday, 19. January 2010, 17:00.
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SeanJ
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Derekap
Tuesday, 19. January 2010, 16:27
Can we therefore assume that if everything was in Latin alone, and not translated, there would never be any mistakes?
The Latin Vulgate Bible on the Vatican's web site has numerous typos.
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PJD

The other day I questioned a priest, who taught dogmatic theology etc., about the academic acceptability of those who put letters after their name. He replied that in respect of Catholic examinations etc. all courses were set out by the Catholic Hierarchy, exam papers were prepared by Catholic theologians, they were passed by Catholic theologians, and they had to have proceeded via a Catholic University, staffed by Catholics, and recognised by the Vatican.

He asked me why I was asking. I said that nowadays one had to 'keep awake'. He smiled.

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