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| Formal defection downgraded; “the to "expressed desire” of those who wish to defect | |
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| Topic Started: Thursday, 14. October 2010, 21:47 (695 Views) | |
| OsullivanB | Monday, 18. October 2010, 06:40 Post #46 |
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I thought that for quite a few years before his election he was for practical purposes his predecessor. |
| "There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation." Herbert Spencer | |
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| PJD | Monday, 18. October 2010, 08:08 Post #47 |
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"Logically it seems to me that if the Church can expel by excommunication, the individual member must be able to resign, not necessarily only by going to the trouble of getting excommunicated." Going to the trouble of getting excommunicated would be pointless as regards the validity of Baptism. 'Must be able to' is therefore a useless insistence; like saying I must be able to fly around the sun. Interesting argument all round this topic (smile) PJD |
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| Gerard | Monday, 18. October 2010, 09:05 Post #48 |
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I think there are two different arguments going on in this thread. Whether people, in human terms, can leave the church. Whether people in supernatural terms can leave the church. Gerry |
| "The institutional and charismatic aspects are quasi coessential to the Church's constitution" (Pope John Paul II, 1998). | |
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| PJD | Monday, 18. October 2010, 17:23 Post #49 |
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"I think there are two different arguments going on in this thread. Whether people, in human terms, can leave the church. Whether people in supernatural terms can leave the church. Gerry" Exactly Gerry. Bring my mind to the Star Trek 'Search for Spock' - when Spock's father said to the Vulcan Assembly exhorting the supernatural - "where my son is concerned my logic is unclear". PJD |
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