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| Clare | Sunday, 25. October 2009, 19:06 Post #121 |
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To be fair, he, and the whole panel, were asked about the most important issue of the moment. Jan Moir's Daily Mail column about Stephen Gately.
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| OsullivanB | Sunday, 25. October 2009, 19:08 Post #122 |
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There are Japanese who are much darker than most Japanese. They suffer prejudice. Koreans also tend to be darker than the Japanese, and suffer discrimination at their hands. If you think there should be black and white Japanese people, I think you'd better take it up with God. He only made them in colour. Edited by OsullivanB, Sunday, 25. October 2009, 20:13.
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| Angus Toanimo | Sunday, 25. October 2009, 19:09 Post #123 |
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| Angus Toanimo | Sunday, 25. October 2009, 19:10 Post #124 |
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Yes, I wondered why they bothered discussing anything else...
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| Clare | Sunday, 25. October 2009, 19:21 Post #125 |
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So, would you likewise say that anyone who wants black and Asian British people should take it up with God? Look, if you can have black English people, you can have white Japanese people. And, personally, I have no problem with that. I am just pointing out a double standard. |
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| OsullivanB | Sunday, 25. October 2009, 19:29 Post #126 |
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I'm not English, but I am British. Nor do I usually think of British Asians etc. as English. I expect there are black and white people who are citizens of Japan - not a decision I would be queuing to emulate.
Edited by OsullivanB, Sunday, 25. October 2009, 19:30.
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| OsullivanB | Sunday, 25. October 2009, 19:32 Post #127 |
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There are indeed black people in Japan. They have a website of their own: http://www.blacktokyo.com/ |
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| Clare | Sunday, 25. October 2009, 19:42 Post #128 |
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That wasn't what I asked though. Are they considered Japanese? |
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| OsullivanB | Sunday, 25. October 2009, 19:42 Post #129 |
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And I've just remembered, during the apartheid era the South Africans were keen on doing business with Japan; so they classified the Japanese as honorary whites to make sure they could stay in nice (i.e. whites only) hotels, eat in nice restaurants etc. |
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| OsullivanB | Sunday, 25. October 2009, 19:46 Post #130 |
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No, Clare, you didn't actually ask that. I can only answer for myself. I consider them Japanese, For a fuller answer, you may have to find a cross-section of the Japanese public. If it's the Japanese equivalent of the BNP, that should probably read a cross section. BTW when did we start using the Japanese as a yardstick for how we should behave? Edited by OsullivanB, Sunday, 25. October 2009, 19:50.
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| tomais | Sunday, 25. October 2009, 19:54 Post #131 |
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Yes all of the inputs are important-but then so were such things as socialism at one time- communism-and the labour party who spawned Mosely. In a very few years time such as griffin will be ???? what? OK I know this form of reasoning-but what will be the short term results in the UK ? Crystal balls at a premium. Think though that in the political background of the machinations going on that have left us with attitudes towards Iraq- indeed today-Lockerbie ! Were are pawns. Pawns in our own country- but then the Church does at least offer Sanctuary. Discussions etc., re light and heat. Me? Perhaps monies to do up Saint Patrick's Church Edinburgh if the Pope visits- re Venerable Margaret Sinclair ! Odds are griffin wont put his hands in his own pockets- just his bigoted followers. Fi Me |
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| Richard Hannay. | Sunday, 25. October 2009, 20:37 Post #132 |
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Would that be a return to the good old "British policing that ensured the conviction of the Birmingham 6 or the Guilford four. The Black and tans or the B Specials, or perhaps Patrick you meant the SA or the SS. I do not understand how a Christian website can allow the support of the BNP that you are offering, I would press the report button but what would be the point your hardly likly to ban yourself. The purpose of this thread was for Christians to petition to prevent the BNP using Christianity as a cover for their despicable policies. It is clear that it has failed. Oh what the heck I shall press report anyway.
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| Angus Toanimo | Sunday, 25. October 2009, 21:12 Post #133 |
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Oh for goodness' sake!! My liking their policies on various mainstream things does not make me a supporter of their party! If you have bothered to look at their policies on Policing and Crime, Education and Health, most people would probably agree that they are rather good, and far much better than what the present Labour and previous Conservative governments have done. There is no support of the BNP here, either from myself or another contributor to this thread - liking some of their policies on mainstream issues is not tantamount to support for them. Edited by Angus Toanimo, Sunday, 25. October 2009, 21:34.
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| K.T.B. | Sunday, 25. October 2009, 21:51 Post #134 |
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Their policy of executing some criminals is "rather good"? What happened to Christian belief the sacredness of human life? One more clear reason why the B.N.P.may not say they are standing up for Christianity. |
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| CARLO | Sunday, 25. October 2009, 21:54 Post #135 |
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Racist and extreme right wing parties very often have 'law and order' policies that appeal such as strong arm policing, restoration of the death penalty and 'life means life' etc. Such policies are cynically offered to appeal to those who understandably are emotional about such subjects. What they do not explain is the financial implications of implementing many of these policies. The building of new prisons and their ongoing maintenance is a horrendous cost that can only be financed by increasing taxes the result of which is to further depress the economy and impoverish the low paid and those on benefits. And of course they will need separate prisons for those who belong to races or who have skin colours not in favour with the jumped up Hitlers who will rule over them! Racist and Fascist political rhetoric and campaigning is a crafty business. Those who direct and plan their publicity are no fools unlike those whose votes they covet. Everything designed to appeal to the weak, ignorant and insecure with the real intentions kept secret for the day power is achieved. All those things that some Germans pre 1945 apparently didn't realize were happening. Our Church is Catholic in every sense - for me that means no truck with racists and extreme right wing groups who try to entice the weak and insecure with their poison. "Come into my parlour said the spider to the fly.........................." De profunds Out of the depths CARLO Edited by CARLO, Sunday, 25. October 2009, 21:56.
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I shall press report anyway.
8:37 PM Jul 11