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| Topic Started: Monday, 6. April 2009, 14:21 (1,674 Views) | |
| Rose of York | Monday, 8. June 2009, 13:12 Post #61 |
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BNP now shelters under the umbrella of Christianity. Reverend Robert West, who calls himself a Christian minister, stood as a BNP candidate in the European Elections. He is moderator of the The Christian Council of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. A few months ago the Lincolnshire local newspaper reported that he did not preach or hold services in any church or chapel, he had simply announced he is a pastor. The Christian Council of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, otherwise known as the Christian Council of Britain, is not listed on the Charity Commission register. I find no record of any mainstream denominations having any connection with that Council. http://www.ccob.co.uk/?page_id=6
Who exactly are the historic British people, whose land this is? Is the criteria the number of generations of one's ancestors, who have lived here, or race? I am confident there would be no questions asked if I applied to join, I am white, through marriage I acquired an English name. My school friends included the children of Italians, Dutch, and Roumanians, their daughters might well have English surnames, through marriage. We will be treated as having a right to acknowledge England as our homeland. The descendant of a black slave, brought here under force. is not eligible for membership, nor is a Christian of Jewish ethnicity. |
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| william of bow | Monday, 8. June 2009, 13:41 Post #62 |
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Going off track ... I was hacked off to see that despite the meltdown suffered by the Labour vote in London Mary Honeyball managed to keep her seat. For those who don't know, this lady is rabidly anti-Christian, particularly anti-catholic and very publically says so. What got the BNP elected was the overall fall in people voting. The Tories actually didn't do that well, indeed, about 1% worse than the last election. But the poll was one of the smallest ever, 36% of the electorate only. Early analysis I have seen suggests that the BNP picked up some Green Votes but the Greens didn't suffer because they picked up new votes from elsewhere. Labour did badly because they couldn't even get their own vote out, so hacked off are many of their own activists by the expenses scandal and with Gordon Brown's (non) leadership. William |
William of Bow[G.K.Chesterton] Check my Blog: http://www.williamonthehill.typepad.co.uk | |
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| Deleted User | Monday, 8. June 2009, 14:09 Post #63 |
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I don't consider your post off track but a clear indicator of the same apathy among the electorate that caused the problem under discussion. 36% it's worse than I had noted but then I was relying upon the BBC at about 1am, the BBC is never reliable at 1am and sadly less and less reliable at other times, but now I really am taking the wrong track. but have you ever noticed they do nothing good or ill.When ever we get a chance be it in the autumn or the spring of next year, the message is clear. Register and vote. Rose your concern for the BNP masquerading as Christian is a real worry and has been argued in this thread. Canon Law expressly forbids Catholic priests taking part in civil politics and I think that persons of other denominations should only be permitted to do so as private citizens and not under the banner of their appointment. (I always thought this about Bishop Tutu and Ian Paisley)
Members of the armed forces are not permitted to appear on the hustings in uniform and so clerics of any kind should also be denied permission to appear in clerical garb. |
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| william of bow | Monday, 8. June 2009, 14:16 Post #64 |
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Never mind masquerading as Christians, I believe that the BNP even masquerade as democrats!
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| Deleted User | Monday, 8. June 2009, 14:18 Post #65 |
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Well said
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| Rose of York | Monday, 8. June 2009, 14:37 Post #66 |
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More about Reverend Robert West. http://barthsnotes.wordpress.com/2006/03/29/far-right-christian-group-founder-suspended-from-tory-party/ On Ekklesia forum there is a posting saying Robert West claims to be an ordained elder of the Apostolic Church, and that church has no place of worship in Lincolnshire, where he lives, and the church authorities have no trace of him. Posted on Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 05:06 pm |
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| william of bow | Monday, 8. June 2009, 15:55 Post #67 |
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This is part of the analysis of the voting patterns from the BBC News website:
Similiarly, the surge to the Conservatives in Wales is solely down to the collapse of the Labour vote there. The Greens did very well in London, increasing their vote. The Greens can now claim to be the third largest party in London after the Conservatives and the Liberals. However they still only got two Seats. William |
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| Em. | Tuesday, 9. June 2009, 19:10 Post #68 |
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I am of the opinion that Catholics should stand up and be counted. We always close our eyes and make escuses for the offender. What made us that way? |
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| Rose of York | Tuesday, 9. June 2009, 20:17 Post #69 |
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Possibly misinterpretation of the commands "Love thy neighbour" "turn the other cheek" "forgive seventy times seven". If a politician of any party is doing something which harms the nation, we have a duty to bring matters to light. That does not mean we hate the person. What made us that way? It is not a specifically Catholic problem. I know country people in their eighties who remember having to doff their caps when the squire or his lady went past in the carriage. I have also met people who had to attend chapel, on pain of losing their tied cottages. The average person thought of the land or factory owners as his "betters". |
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| Rose of York | Thursday, 25. June 2009, 16:39 Post #70 |
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Equality and Human Rights Commission
The article is long, I summarise what I see to be the main points. The Commission is concerned that the party’s membership criteria appear to restrict membership to those within what the BNP regards as particular “ethnic groups” and those whose skin colour is white. Apparently BNP's advertisements for staff recruitment state that applicants should supply a membership number. The Commission thinks that this requirement is contrary to the Race Relations Act, which outlaws the refusal or deliberate omission to offer employment on the basis of non-membership of an organisation. The Commission is therefore concerned that the BNP may have acted, and be acting, illegally. The Commission is also concerned that BNP members who gain seats in our electtions may not intend to offer or provide services on an equal basis to all their constituents and members of the public irrespective of race or colour. The commission has asked BNP to provide written undertakings by 20th July that it will make the changes required by the Commission. Failure to do so may result in the Commission issuing an application for a legal injunction against the BNP. |
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| Rose of York | Thursday, 22. October 2009, 01:11 Post #71 |
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http://www.indcatholicnews.com/news.php?viewStory=15026
Reproduced in full, with permission |
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| Anne-Marie | Thursday, 22. October 2009, 06:50 Post #72 |
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Bully for all those condemning the BNP. Had it not been for the disgusting, contemptuous and anti-democratic misconduct of our politicians, national and local alike, their fleecing of the taxpayer to line their own pockets (even local councillors increase their own pay and expenses whilst reducing staff because of cash shortages), their blatant lies/deception in parliament and council chamber alike, their prosecution/dismissal of leakers, their attempts to silence opposition and their refusal to listen to what the people want, voters would never have even considered voting BNP. In Europe, it turned out UKIP were the worst offenders of the lot financially! Who the heck ARE the voters to turn to? It's the present major parties and their politicians who have created this situation, and worry for the BNP victims or not, I would never support silencing extremists who at least force the rest of the politicians to pay attention to US. |
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| PJD | Thursday, 22. October 2009, 07:05 Post #73 |
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Well said Anne-Ma\rie PJD |
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| Richard Hannay. | Thursday, 22. October 2009, 07:19 Post #74 |
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There is a difference between silencing extremists and rebutting their claims and I Hope Nick Griffin gets a good rebuttal tonight on question time. |
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| K.T.B. | Thursday, 22. October 2009, 09:06 Post #75 |
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I hope so, too, Richard. There are concerns, though, that the Question Time format does not allow for real, rigorous debate, rather it gives the panellists a chance to sound off about the issues without proper examination, and that David Dimbleby isn't a strong enough chairman to deal with it. I think I take the view that yes, as an elected party the BBC have let them on to current affairs programmes, but those in which they'll be subjected to proper questioning by opponents and interviewers. Question Time isn't one of those programmes. |
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but have you ever noticed they do nothing good or ill.
Well said
8:37 PM Jul 11