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| Topic Started: Monday, 6. April 2009, 14:21 (1,675 Views) | |
| Rose of York | Sunday, 12. April 2009, 01:41 Post #46 |
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Have their leaders spoken about Catholicism? What's their problem with us? Is the Catholic Church too multicultural for their liking? |
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| Deleted User | Sunday, 12. April 2009, 01:44 Post #47 |
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No I don't think there has been anything specific but I think all these right wing British crazies have tended to lump Catholicism with the IRA and so there is a generally anti-Catholic feeling to their views. Brilliant that this is so--it would be shaming if they liked us! John |
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| Rose of York | Monday, 25. May 2009, 22:54 Post #48 |
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http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/Faith-leaders-unite--in.5266198.jp
How odd that this did not get more publicity. There was lots of media coverage when the Anglican Archbishops of Canterbury and York spoke out. |
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| Deleted User | Tuesday, 26. May 2009, 17:22 Post #49 |
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Just thought it worth reminding people of the Hope not Hate campaign raised at the start of the thread. http://action.hopenothate.org.uk/content/home/suit |
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| Rose of York | Monday, 1. June 2009, 01:34 Post #50 |
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Leaders of Christian and Easter faiths in Manchester have spoken out urging people not to vote for BNP. I cannot recall any other election when any English bishop has named a party, urging people to vote for or against its candidates. First the Bishop of Hallam, now Salford!
Reproduced in full, with permission. http://www.indcatholicnews.com/news.php?viewStory=14406 |
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| Rose of York | Monday, 1. June 2009, 18:34 Post #51 |
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An editorial in the Huddersfield Examiner explains why it is possible for a party with only 11% of the vote, to gain a seat in the European Parliament. Huddersfield is the biggest town in the local authority called Kirklees, which consists of dozens of thickly populated former textile and coal minining towns. Kirklees has one England's highest percentages of ethnically Asians residents, mainly muslim. What happens there could be viewed as a benchmark for all similar areas. Huddersfield Examiner
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| Derekap | Monday, 1. June 2009, 20:18 Post #52 |
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There is a grave danger of increasing apathy to vote, particularly in view of the Expenses Scandal. "They are all at it" could be the conclusion leaving candidates of parties not yet involved to win. I think we need to pray for the intervention of The Holy Spirit!! Incidently most of the literature we have received so far seems to concentrate more on the state of our government and the opposition rather than Brussels, even though in our area we have no local elections. |
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| PJD | Monday, 1. June 2009, 21:51 Post #53 |
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"Incidently most of the literature we have received so far seems to concentrate more on the state of our government and the opposition rather than Brussels, even though in our area we have no local elections." Yes I agree, same where I am. They certainly seemed very worried. Most I have spoken to do indeed refer to the expenses fiasco, but also underlying this I sense there is a building up of tension regarding the actual democratic process and the expenses may be just the spark for what might follow later. PJD |
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| JRJ | Tuesday, 2. June 2009, 01:16 Post #54 |
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Dangerous ground, that apathy!! It did NOT work well here in the US. Now we have Government Motors and all sorts of private property seized by the government without cause or compensation in direct violation of the Constitution. Families that have spent a lifetime building car dealership businesses are having them closed whether they are profitable or not. ELECTIONS MATTER. ELECTIONS MATTER. VOTE!! As a side note, we in America are having an expense account scandal of our own. Wide screen televisions, expensive computers, pricey car leases...
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| OsullivanB | Tuesday, 2. June 2009, 10:42 Post #55 |
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Another interesting question is why a party (any party) with a distinct agenda (could be Catholics against abortion) which speaks for one in nine of those voting has no representation in our domestic parliament. |
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| K.T.B. | Monday, 8. June 2009, 09:43 Post #56 |
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Well, I must say, folks, that I'm seriously hacked off that the B.N.P. managed to get two European seats in the election. Did anyone catch Nick Griffin on the telly last night, having the cheek to say the B.N.P. are defending Christian values?
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| Clare | Monday, 8. June 2009, 10:14 Post #57 |
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Straining at gnats and swallowing camels. Aren't you hacked off that Labour, the Conservatives, and the LibDems got more than two seats? They are no better than the BNP, and just because the media say they are does not make them so. How can any Catholic, who lives in a society which allows abortion, promotion of homosexuality to primary school children, the handing out of morning after pills at secondary school, etc... how can any Catholic possibly expend more energy in being hacked off that the BNP are getting the odd seat here and there? Priorities, please! We already live under an evil regime as it is! |
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| K.T.B. | Monday, 8. June 2009, 10:40 Post #58 |
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Hi, Clare. Who says I'm not also hacked off about certain policies of the mainstream parties? Just ask my hubby who has to put up with getting an earful from me about my opinions of some government policies when we're sitting watching the news together, for example!
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| Deleted User | Monday, 8. June 2009, 11:22 Post #59 |
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I think that given the limited choice I would have to say that BNP is still a long way short of being comparable to any of the main parties. Unfortunately Clare the majority of people probably had feelings similar to yours and so decided to exercise their democratic rite by not voting. Less than 45% of the electorate turned out and that is the main reason, in my opinion, that BNP made ground. Even if you had voted for the Monster raving Loony party you would have done a better service to the Catholic Church than failing to vote and so allowing the BNP to claim a larger percentage of the few votes that were cast. Voting should be compulsory but in order to be elected the person should gain a minimum % of the possible vote, not the actual no of votes cast. So as things stood last night the conservatives for example had 29% of the votes cast that means that they had less than 15% of the possible vote. If the requirement to take a seat were set at say 33% then they would not be elected and we would have to go back to the poles. A bit like electing the Pope. Unfortunately such a system would be cumbersome and expensive and it is not likely to be introduced. (Australia has compulsory voting but then it only has about 15% of the Electorate available in the UK.) So it is up to us to make sure we vote and that our vote is effective, in other words vote tactically if you want to keep BNP out of an area were they could win you may find that you have to vote Tory or libdem or even UKIP to ensure that there is a credible opposition. The BNP is a Party committed to racist and evil practice. I see no merit in them and only for the sake of political freedom does it exist. Secular governments may permit practices, such as abortion, which we find religiously abhorrent but that milk was spilt in 1967 and no party is offering to reverse it. We have a choice today to prevent a party gaining ground whose policies we can deny and who we can do something about. The shame is to many people sat at home and cursed the system. Take a stand because the world is changing and unless we make a stand it will move on regardless. |
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| Deleted User | Monday, 8. June 2009, 11:30 Post #60 |
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I have to ask what are you suggesting as an alternative? Curse the dark or turn on a light? When you turn on the light you may find the room is not very attractive and you were better off with your imagination and the world you dreamt of in the dark. The problem is Jesus called us to walk in the light. |
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