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| Rose of York | Friday, 1. October 2010, 01:38 Post #271 |
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In the town where the incidents I mentioned took place, imams have condemned racial attacks by asians and white people. They also expressed shame when terrorists were arrested in that and the neighouring town. When 60 muslim graves were defaced and overturned the imam called for restraint, not retalisation. Like I said, there are many sects of Islam. Some believe in jihadi, some do not. Whatever is done by persons on one side, nothing justifies violent retaliation. I do not like the rapid cultural change that was, I believe, planned in some areas, but there is no reason to treat individuals with any form of abuse. |
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| Rose of York | Friday, 1. October 2010, 01:39 Post #272 |
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descendant of persons of an ethnic minority.
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| Mairtin | Friday, 1. October 2010, 07:24 Post #273 |
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| Mairtin | Friday, 1. October 2010, 07:30 Post #274 |
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Patrick During the 1970s mainland bombing campaign by the IRA with atrocities like Birmingham and Guildford, quite a significant portion of the British populace - encoraged by what seems to be your your favourite newspaper if I remember correctly - regarded the entire Irish community in the UK with suspicion at best and outright hostility at worst. Do you think they were correct to do so? |
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| Clare | Friday, 1. October 2010, 09:54 Post #275 |
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The media often report crimes committed by whites on blacks or Asians, and are very clear about the fact that it was a white who committed the crime. They are rather more reticent when it's the other way around, and it often is. Still, violence is violence. I've said before, I doubt it would be particularly comforting for the family of a white murder victim to be "reassured" that the culprit was also white, so it wasn't a racially motivated crime! |
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| Angus Toanimo | Friday, 1. October 2010, 09:59 Post #276 |
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Mairtin, I'm not too young to know that it wasn't mainly the Sun Newspaper that fuelled English peoples' suspicion of the Irish in Britain during that time. Just the same as it isn't the Sun Newspaper that fuels peoples dislike and suspicion of Asians nowadays. And you don't remember correctly - I'm a Times reader. |
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| Alpac | Friday, 1. October 2010, 11:08 Post #277 |
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Murdoch’s upmarket/POSH version of the Sun. But seriously , you are correct Patrick no one paper was responsible for the Anti-Irish antagonism in England in the early seventies, the bombs did that and any reporting of the bombing was pretty firmly Anti-Irish in its flavour and sadly created the impression that all Irish Catholics were supporters of the IRA and the republican movement. Most of us just wanted to live in peace and many young Irish people left Ireland in the 70’s and 80’s to escape the troubles and found themselves greeted by an Anti-Irish sentiment in England. Though I have to say this was far from universal and compared to the US reaction to terrorists I think the average English person acted with great restraint and dignity. |
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| Rose of York | Friday, 1. October 2010, 13:22 Post #278 |
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Murder is murder, the family have lost their son in an act of violence. However, frequent racially motivated violence in a town is an indication that serious trouble is brewing. If each incident were to be viewed in isolation, that would delay any major initiative to identify causes of communal resentment and seek solutions. |
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| Clare | Friday, 1. October 2010, 15:22 Post #279 |
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Problems arise when the culprits are not white, because any attempt at identifying the causes would be... racist. |
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| Rose of York | Friday, 1. October 2010, 16:10 Post #280 |
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RUBBISH! I suggest you read the whole of this. The victims are white. http://www.thepressnews.co.uk/NewsDetails.asp?id=2027]
The Press DO report racist attacks and abuse perpetrated by asians against white people. This not an isolated instance of reporting. |
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| Clare | Friday, 1. October 2010, 17:07 Post #281 |
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Nuff said. To do something would be tantamount to racism. |
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| Mairtin | Friday, 1. October 2010, 19:01 Post #282 |
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Let's leave the newspapers aside, Patrick, and deal with my central question - were those British people who were hostile towards the whole Irish community entitled to act that way? |
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| K.T.B. | Friday, 1. October 2010, 19:11 Post #283 |
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Clare. If you read through to the end of the article Rose posted you will find out what the police have been doing. |
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| Mairtin | Friday, 1. October 2010, 19:30 Post #284 |
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Now, now, KTB, you surely can't expect a few facts to be allowed to disturb somebody's comfortable prejudices. |
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| Rose of York | Friday, 1. October 2010, 19:36 Post #285 |
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Clare, have some more reports. http://www.thepressnews.co.uk/NewsDetails.asp?id=4208 I am not prepared to do the work of picking out the reports. You will need to click Edit Find and type the word "Asian". I doubt whether you want to be convinced that the media report attacks by Asians against whites. I still stress that there are faults on both sides. There are plenty of attacks by white people upon Asians. I know that town like the back of my hand, could tell you which areas are no go for Asians and which are no go for white people. |
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