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Racism and religious hatred
Topic Started: Monday, 6. April 2009, 14:21 (1,668 Views)
Rose of York
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SeanJ
Sunday, 25. October 2009, 23:16
And, as far as the BNP is concerned, when they have got rid of those foreignors with dark skin, they will start on those foreignors who have pale skin and a funny accent, otherwise known as the Irish, or those who don't abide by the state religion, otherwise known as Catholics.
Will they also get rid of non-productive people on the grounds that they take more from the State than they contribute?
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"I have read the policies of the BNP and like the document from which I have just quoted, which I have also studied in some detail, it is purpose built to attract the disillusioned and confused. "

I think that Richard makes a very important point here. I think that before deciding we like some of their policies it is is important to remember their reason for being in politics and seeking public backing. When one remembers that, the conclusion is that all their other stated policies are only a carrot. Because of this I find all their policies, however good they might sound, to be tainted and unworthy of any consideration.

The BBC has been critisised for giving the BNP and their policies publicity, it occurs to me that we may also be doing that.
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Sunday, 25. October 2009, 23:42
The BBC has been critisised for giving the BNP and their policies publicity, it occurs to me that we may also be doing that.
We who object to BNP policies have an opportunity to condemn them.
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And it is much safer to condemn things knowing what they are rather than blindly.
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation." Herbert Spencer
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I hope Richard does not go.

Please stay Richard.

Debate in an internet forum is often harsh - there is no visual contact or tone of voice to soften or reassure. We need good contributors like you to our debates.

Interesting how support for right wing extremists so often boils down to a blood lust for executions and torture of criminals.

Spare a thought for the poor fools who believe that such things are of any real importance to those who intention is only to use them as bait on the hook of fascism!

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Joseph

Yes, I endorse that request to Richard too Carlo.

Richard please reconsider, and continue submitting your greatly appreciated posts in here.

In the short time you have been with us you have made a valuable contribution on many topics,
a contribution which would be sadly missed if you left.
Joseph
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I feel that it's necessary to get a few things straight here.

I am not racist, nor so I support the British National Party. I am, as well as anybody else, at liberty to like whatever individual policies of any British political parties I wish. Liking individual policies of any political party does not mean that I support that party.

Yes, I felt a bit sorry for Nick Griffin during Question Time as it was NOT Question Time - the whole thing was a set-up - even the "impartial" Dimbleby was NOT impartial. The panellists were like vultures, and the audience had been briefed to ask provocative questions. Normally, on QT, politicians are not usually asked questions on just a single issue (in this case, immigration).

And, it's quite amusing that people who call Nick Griffin a Nazi and other things are guilty of "hate-speech" and inciting hatred (a criminal offence in this country, Mr Straw!) themselves - I wonder what is Jack Straw's opinion on that? Because my opinion is that this man is every bit as guilty as the BNP for inciting hatred.

Oh, and just for the record, I'm an Irish Nationalist, not a British one.
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Rose of York
Sunday, 25. October 2009, 23:37
Will they also get rid of non-productive people on the grounds that they take more from the State than they contribute?
Yes.
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Monday, 26. October 2009, 11:03
Rose of York
Sunday, 25. October 2009, 23:37
Will they also get rid of non-productive people on the grounds that they take more from the State than they contribute?
Yes.
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Rose of York
Sunday, 25. October 2009, 23:37
SeanJ
Sunday, 25. October 2009, 23:16
And, as far as the BNP is concerned, when they have got rid of those foreignors with dark skin, they will start on those foreignors who have pale skin and a funny accent, otherwise known as the Irish, or those who don't abide by the state religion, otherwise known as Catholics.
Will they also get rid of non-productive people on the grounds that they take more from the State than they contribute?
Here's one sentiment on the matter as expressed by one of the B.N.P.'s leaders.

Jeffrey Marshall, senior organiser for the BNP's London European election campaign. After the death of David Cameron's son Ivan, Marshall claimed in an internet forum discussion: "We live in a country today which is unhealthily dominated by an excess of sentimentality towards the weak and unproductive. No good will come of it."


http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/may/31/bnp-european-elections-facebook-expose•





Edited by K.T.B., Monday, 26. October 2009, 11:49.
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Griffin is dangerous in my view. He is cute the right way. He makes small remarks that stay in peoples minds. He plants the seeds of hatred and leaves it at that. He is no debator as we saw on tv but in my view his party will grow there is no doubt about that. He got a 2.2 at Cambridge in History I think. He is no mug.

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Monday, 26. October 2009, 11:49
Griffin is dangerous in my view. He is cute the right way. He makes small remarks that stay in peoples minds. He plants the seeds of hatred and leaves it at that. He is no debator as we saw on tv but in my view his party will grow there is no doubt about that. He got a 2.2 at Cambridge in History I think. He is no mug.

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History and Law.

According to some columnist in one ofthe daily newspapers, he could have easily wiped the floor with his fellow panellists but chose not to.
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Monday, 26. October 2009, 11:40
Rose of York
Sunday, 25. October 2009, 23:37
SeanJ
Sunday, 25. October 2009, 23:16
And, as far as the BNP is concerned, when they have got rid of those foreignors with dark skin, they will start on those foreignors who have pale skin and a funny accent, otherwise known as the Irish, or those who don't abide by the state religion, otherwise known as Catholics.
Will they also get rid of non-productive people on the grounds that they take more from the State than they contribute?
Here's one sentiment on the matter as expressed by one of the B.N.P.'s leaders.

Jeffrey Marshall, senior organiser for the BNP's London European election campaign. After the death of David Cameron's son Ivan, Marshall claimed in an internet forum discussion: "We live in a country today which is unhealthily dominated by an excess of sentimentality towards the weak and unproductive. No good will come of it."


http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/may/31/bnp-european-elections-facebook-expose•





Undoubtedly sick and twisted. Just like some MPs and councillors in the big three parties.
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Rose of York
Sunday, 25. October 2009, 23:37
SeanJ
Sunday, 25. October 2009, 23:16
And, as far as the BNP is concerned, when they have got rid of those foreignors with dark skin, they will start on those foreignors who have pale skin and a funny accent, otherwise known as the Irish, or those who don't abide by the state religion, otherwise known as Catholics.
Will they also get rid of non-productive people on the grounds that they take more from the State than they contribute?
I imagine, people with just the one eye will be safe... ;)

Who can imagine having a one-eyed Prime Minister? Oh yeah!

Well, you know what they say, in the Kingdom of the Blind...
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Monday, 26. October 2009, 10:40
I feel that it's necessary to get a few things straight here.

I am not racist, nor so I support the British National Party. I am, as well as anybody else, at liberty to like whatever individual policies of any British political parties I wish. Liking individual policies of any political party does not mean that I support that party.

Yes, I felt a bit sorry for Nick Griffin during Question Time as it was NOT Question Time - the whole thing was a set-up - even the "impartial" Dimbleby was NOT impartial. The panellists were like vultures, and the audience had been briefed to ask provocative questions. Normally, on QT, politicians are not usually asked questions on just a single issue (in this case, immigration).

And, it's quite amusing that people who call Nick Griffin a Nazi and other things are guilty of "hate-speech" and inciting hatred (a criminal offence in this country, Mr Straw!) themselves - I wonder what is Jack Straw's opinion on that?
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