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| Angus Toanimo | Sunday, 25. October 2009, 21:59 Post #136 |
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CCC 2267. |
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| Clare | Sunday, 25. October 2009, 22:11 Post #137 |
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Putting the "Fun Dame" into Fundamentalist
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Will you report any posts where, for example, Obama is praised? Or how about when Carlo leaps to the defence of the indefensible Blairs, at every opportunity? Or how about that thread where a dissenting bishop was lauded, and the pro-abortion Mandela was hailed as a hero? Some things are obviously more despicable than others. You can praise a pro-abortion politician, and noone hits the report button. But, show any fair-mindedness towards Nick Griffin, and off with your head! |
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| Clare | Sunday, 25. October 2009, 22:16 Post #138 |
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In addition to Patrick's CCC citation, I submit: Catechism of the Council of Trent:
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| OsullivanB | Sunday, 25. October 2009, 22:23 Post #139 |
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Ah me, how I yearn for the return of the Tridentine lawful slayings. However, I fear that David was somewhat lax in his approach. If we only use mornings for the slaying of the wicked, we may never catch up with the backlog. Edited by OsullivanB, Monday, 26. October 2009, 00:02.
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| "There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation." Herbert Spencer | |
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| Rose of York | Sunday, 25. October 2009, 22:28 Post #140 |
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How can their immigration policy be set aside? It is the reason for BNP's existence. |
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| Angus Toanimo | Sunday, 25. October 2009, 22:30 Post #141 |
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Not set aside, but I was referring to their other policies, rather than the immigration one. |
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| K.T.B. | Sunday, 25. October 2009, 22:38 Post #142 |
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http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2267.htm The Church teaches that the cases where the execution of the offender is an absolute necessity "are very rare if not practically non-existant". This ain't what the B.N.P. are saying. |
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| Rose of York | Sunday, 25. October 2009, 22:39 Post #143 |
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I submit the words of the Catechism of the Catholic Church
Methods of security have improved somewhat since the production of the Council of Trent |
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| Angus Toanimo | Sunday, 25. October 2009, 22:42 Post #144 |
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Not a totally unreasonable punishment for a serial killer or child murderer, surely? Why should we taxpayers pay for their upkeep in jails for the rest of their existence? Why should the taxpayer pay towards their upkeep in cushy jails for 15-20 years (where many of them have an existence - unlike the existence they denied their victim(s) ) until they're released into society only to continue killing? Edited by Angus Toanimo, Sunday, 25. October 2009, 22:43.
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| Rose of York | Sunday, 25. October 2009, 22:50 Post #145 |
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Why? I think it is something to do with respect for life, and with the Commandments of God, not the policies of a political party. I wonder how many people in the UK served many years in prison, for murder, and were then released because new evidence proved their innocence. Adolf Hitler fooleded people with his "good policies". He knew from the start that he would end up ordering the extermination of Jews, gypsies and people with mental and physical disabilities. |
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| Angus Toanimo | Sunday, 25. October 2009, 22:54 Post #146 |
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A respect for life Rose isn't a reason to hand out pathetic prison terms for serious criminal offences! |
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| Richard Hannay. | Sunday, 25. October 2009, 22:57 Post #147 |
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The opening remarks
The plot develops
Sound Good so far? I shall not quote any more but surfice it to say Patrick I have read the policies of the BNP and like the document from which I have just quoted, which I have also studied in some detail, it is purpose built to attract the disillusioned and confused. But as Christians we should not be disillusioned or confused we should recognise the guile of those who would seduce us. I am not an American so can make no difference to the position of Barack Obama, Clare, and I cannot bolt the stable door on the current abortion policy but I have consistently spoken of the sanctity of life in this forum so do not insult me by saying, “You can praise a pro-abortion politician". I have dealt with the refugees of the Central European terror and many atrocities in Central Europe that the UN stood by and ignored, I have a friend who witnessed the massacres of hundreds in Ruanda, and could do nothing to help because the UN would not allow the British and Canadian troops to act. Defence of the BNP or any of applauding any of their policies on what claims to be the "Leading Catholic Website in the UK" is to me offensive and I choose to show my protest by exercising my right to push the report button. It was a waste of time. So this will be my final post on this website for I wish not to be associated with it any more. Oh and in case your wondering the book I was quoting from. Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler. Know thine enemy, and I recognise his work on this thread "Be calm and keep watch. The Devil, your enemy, is circling you like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour. Resist him, strong in faith. 1 Peter 5:8-9 " |
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| OsullivanB | Sunday, 25. October 2009, 22:59 Post #148 |
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However, there is an appropriate route to justice somewhere between execution and too-short prison sentences. Though I can honestly say that in almost thirty years of practice in the criminal courts I have never myself been present when a sentence which seemed to me to be too short was passed. Of course the difference is that when I was present I knew all the facts, not just those reported in the newspapers. |
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| OsullivanB | Sunday, 25. October 2009, 23:04 Post #149 |
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I should be sorry to see you go, Richard. But I should be sorrier to see this forum closed to free speech which is not manifestly contrary to the doctrines of the Church; however distasteful, even despicable, I might from time to time find the views of those who are free-speaking. I have great confidence in the power of free and intelligent debate to overcome falsehood. It was Hitler and his cohorts who suppressed free speech, not those who opposed Nazism and other Fascisms.
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| SeanJ | Sunday, 25. October 2009, 23:16 Post #150 |
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Then we need to revise the process by which prison sentences are determined. I remember the first time I heard somebody say "Don't forget that Hitler did some good things: he built autobahns for example." I was absolutely disgusted that somebody could attribute anything good to Hitler. And, as far as the BNP is concerned, when they have got rid of those foreignors with dark skin, they will start on those foreignors who have pale skin and a funny accent, otherwise known as the Irish, or those who don't abide by the state religion, otherwise known as Catholics. SeanJ Edited by SeanJ, Sunday, 25. October 2009, 23:18.
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I shall press report anyway. 
8:37 PM Jul 11