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| Papal Visit 2010: Pope’s address to the bishops – full text | |
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| Topic Started: Sunday, 19. September 2010, 21:09 (351 Views) | |
| Rose of York | Sunday, 19. September 2010, 21:09 Post #1 |
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Pope Benedict's address - link to full text, Catholic Herald This should be worthy of discussion! |
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| Rose of York | Monday, 20. September 2010, 13:11 Post #2 |
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http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/news/2010/09/19/papal-visit-2010-popes-address-to-the-bishops-full-text/
Is Pope Benedict telling our bishops there is a rich harvest in Britain, just waiting for the reapers to get on with the harvest? |
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| Derekap | Monday, 20. September 2010, 15:14 Post #3 |
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We might even see the Hawkins/Dawkings crowd come over eventually! |
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| Paduan | Monday, 20. September 2010, 19:07 Post #4 |
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I want whatever he's smoking. It sounds good!
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| Agnus Dei, qui tollis peccata mundi, miserere nobis. | |
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| KatyA | Monday, 20. September 2010, 22:26 Post #5 |
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An interesting view of the Hoily Father's comments from Raymond Arroyo of EWTN http://www.ewtn.com/news/blog.asp?blog_ID=2
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| Gerard | Tuesday, 21. September 2010, 15:33 Post #6 |
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Arroyo's article is titled
And everybody missed it (except for Arroyo) because becuase it didnt happen! Only in Arroyo's prejudiced wishful thinking did it take place. Gerry Edited by Gerard, Tuesday, 21. September 2010, 15:48.
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| "The institutional and charismatic aspects are quasi coessential to the Church's constitution" (Pope John Paul II, 1998). | |
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| Phil_sfo | Tuesday, 21. September 2010, 15:59 Post #7 |
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This site gives all of the speeches, greetings, replies and homilies and more. http://www.thepapalvisit.org.uk/Replay-the-Visit/Speeches/Speeches-17-September/Pope-Benedict-s-address-to-pupils |
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| PJD | Tuesday, 21. September 2010, 17:08 Post #8 |
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"As you know, a Pontifical Council has recently been established for the New Evangelisation of countries of long-standing Christian tradition, and I would encourage you to avail yourselves of its services in addressing the task before you. Moreover, many of the new ecclesial movements have a particular charism for evangelisation, and I know that you will continue to explore appropriate and effective ways of involving them in the mission of the Church." I haven't read through the whole of his address to the Bishops yet. Will do so this evening. However Rose I think the above extract from your quote is not exactly a pat on all their backs. Pontifical Council reads to me going back to school?? and the new ecclesial movements = divergence towards The Holy Spirit. |
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| Gerard | Tuesday, 21. September 2010, 17:53 Post #9 |
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PJD I dont take anything negative from that. That Council has just been set up and Benedict is promoting it. He has always been keen on the New Movements (believe it or not!) and likewise is pointing out a resource to the Bishops - not that I think they will use it. Gerry Edited by Gerard, Tuesday, 21. September 2010, 17:54.
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| Rose of York | Tuesday, 21. September 2010, 18:09 Post #10 |
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I think it is probable Pope Benedict was telling our bishops to get their act together, preach to the multitudes. |
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| PJD | Thursday, 23. September 2010, 07:39 Post #11 |
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"I think it is probable Pope Benedict was telling our bishops to get their act together, preach to the multitudes." Having read the whole of that text Rose, reading through the lines, I do think he was telling our bishops to get their act together. As for preaching - isn't that a gift of The Spirit. For to quote Gerry - "not that I think they will use it" - is a sad reflection (not that Gerry is sad!). In my opinion thus we need more humility, them and us that is, but especially them. PJD |
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| Rose of York | Thursday, 23. September 2010, 13:15 Post #12 |
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Few Catholics, let alone others, will know about the document "The Common Good". Through the media people, including Catholics, are open to many influences. Gay Rights, Womens "Right to Choose" supporters, animal rights activists, Friends of the Earth, make their voices heard.
They write documents that are available from Catholic suppliers, what do you want them to do, write something in plain English, put it in an attractive cover, get it into the public libraries and W H Smith? That would not do, it might attract people outside our cosy little Catholic ghetto. RCIA is widely advertised on notice boards inside our churches. If the peasants want to believe they make an effort, come inside our churches and read our parish bulletins. ps they needn't expect any of the regulars to speak to them after Mass. We could do with pastoral letters telling us that is our DUTY. Edited by Rose of York, Thursday, 23. September 2010, 13:17.
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| PJD | Thursday, 23. September 2010, 21:32 Post #13 |
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One suggestion Rose. If they can print a million free 400pp book, then they can do something similar and distribute the catechism - free. PJD |
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| Rose of York | Thursday, 23. September 2010, 21:53 Post #14 |
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PJD, why not something simpler than the Catechism, free? Expressions such as "The Sacramental Economy" are off putting for the typical person who is curious about Catholics, wondering what we believe and do, and why. They want to know why Our Lady is so important to us, why the Catholic Church forbids artificial contraception, why we have statues, why we call priests Father. A simple explanatory booklet would help people understand we are not completely nutty. Anyway, as Gerry says, preaching is a Gift of the Spirit. We have all met people who react to gifts with "You didn't have to give me that, there was no need, I wasn't expecting anything. Well, if you insist I accept it thank you very much but like I said there was no need."
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| Eileenanne | Thursday, 23. September 2010, 22:17 Post #15 |
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Rose said:
It isn't Rose. And it is something that needs to be done only with care and sensitivity. Some cautious enquirers could easily find it off-putting. Eileenanne |
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