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Papal Visit 2010: Pope’s address to the bishops – full text
Topic Started: Sunday, 19. September 2010, 21:09 (353 Views)
Rose of York
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Pope Benedict's address - link to full text, Catholic Herald

This should be worthy of discussion!
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http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/news/2010/09/19/papal-visit-2010-popes-address-to-the-bishops-full-text/
Pope Benedict
 
In thank Cardinal O’Brien and Archbishop Nichols for their words, and in so doing, I am reminded how recently I was able to welcome all of you to Rome for the ad limina visits of your respective episcopal conferences. We spoke about some of the challenges you face as you lead your people in faith, particularly regarding the urgent need to proclaim the Gospel afresh in a highly secularised environment. In the course of my visit it has become clear to me how deep a thirst there is among the British people for the Good News of Jesus Christ. You have been chosen by God to offer them the living water the Gospel, encouraging them to place their hopes, not in the vain enticements of this world, but in the firm assurances of the next. As you proclaim the coming of the Kingdom, with its promise of hope or the poor and the needy, the sick and the elderly, the unborn and the neglected, be sure to present in its fullness the life-giving message of the Gospel, including those elements which call into question the widespeard assumptions of today’s culture. As you know, a Pontifical Council has recently been established for the New Evangelisation of countries of long-standing Christian tradition, and I would encourage you to avail yourselves of its services in addressing the task before you. Moreover, many of the new ecclesial movements have a particular charism for evangelisation, and I know that you will continue to explore appropriate and effective ways of involving them in the mission of the Church.


Is Pope Benedict telling our bishops there is a rich harvest in Britain, just waiting for the reapers to get on with the harvest?
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We might even see the Hawkins/Dawkings crowd come over eventually!
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Derekap
Monday, 20. September 2010, 15:14
We might even see the Hawkins/Dawkings crowd come over eventually!
I want whatever he's smoking. It sounds good! :rofl:
Agnus Dei, qui tollis peccata mundi, miserere nobis.
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KatyA

An interesting view of the Hoily Father's comments from Raymond Arroyo of EWTN
http://www.ewtn.com/news/blog.asp?blog_ID=2
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With this understanding, the symbolic and stated message of Pope Benedict during his British sojourn comes into stark relief. His meeting with the Catholic and Anglican bishops at Lambeth Palace, the home of the Archbishop of Canterbury for 800 years (the first 70 Archbishops of Canterbury were Catholics), his visit to Westminster Abbey (built by the Catholic king, Henry III and home to Benedictine monks until the Reformation), his moving speech at Westminster Hall (where Catholic martyrs Thomas More, Edmund Campion, Bishop John Fisher and others were condemned to death for their refusal to disavow their faith), and finally his beatification of the 19th century Anglican convert to Catholicism, Blessed John Henry Newman suddenly all seems one piece. Benedict’s visit was a stand against relativism in the heart of Europe and a plea for Britain to return to herself—to return to her Catholic roots. In a visit worthy of his predecessor, Pope Benedict, with precise language and symbols, communicated a message that will long be felt in England. It was a message controversial and reasonable, bold, and utterly faithful—a simple call, really: England, come home to what you were meant to be, and truly are.
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Gerard

:rolleyes:

Arroyo's article is titled

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"Pope Benedict's UK Visit: The News Everybody Missed"


And everybody missed it (except for Arroyo) because becuase it didnt happen!
Only in Arroyo's prejudiced wishful thinking did it take place.

Gerry

Edited by Gerard, Tuesday, 21. September 2010, 15:48.
"The institutional and charismatic aspects are quasi coessential to the Church's constitution" (Pope John Paul II, 1998).
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Phil_sfo

This site gives all of the speeches, greetings, replies and homilies and more.


http://www.thepapalvisit.org.uk/Replay-the-Visit/Speeches/Speeches-17-September/Pope-Benedict-s-address-to-pupils
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PJD

"As you know, a Pontifical Council has recently been established for the New Evangelisation of countries of long-standing Christian tradition, and I would encourage you to avail yourselves of its services in addressing the task before you. Moreover, many of the new ecclesial movements have a particular charism for evangelisation, and I know that you will continue to explore appropriate and effective ways of involving them in the mission of the Church."

I haven't read through the whole of his address to the Bishops yet. Will do so this evening.

However Rose I think the above extract from your quote is not exactly a pat on all their backs. Pontifical Council reads to me going back to school?? and the new ecclesial movements = divergence towards The Holy Spirit.
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Gerard

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I dont take anything negative from that. That Council has just been set up and Benedict is promoting it. He has always been keen on the New Movements (believe it or not!) and likewise is pointing out a resource to the Bishops - not that I think they will use it.

Gerry
Edited by Gerard, Tuesday, 21. September 2010, 17:54.
"The institutional and charismatic aspects are quasi coessential to the Church's constitution" (Pope John Paul II, 1998).
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I think it is probable Pope Benedict was telling our bishops to get their act together, preach to the multitudes.
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PJD

"I think it is probable Pope Benedict was telling our bishops to get their act together, preach to the multitudes."

Having read the whole of that text Rose, reading through the lines, I do think he was telling our bishops to get their act together.

As for preaching - isn't that a gift of The Spirit. For to quote Gerry - "not that I think they will use it" - is a sad reflection (not that Gerry is sad!). In my opinion thus we need more humility, them and us that is, but especially them.

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Pope Benedict
 
Since your visit to Rome, political changes in the United Kingdom have focused attention on the consequences of the financial crisis, which has caused so much hardship to countless individuals and families. The spectre of unemployment is casting its shadow over many people’s lives, and the long-term cost of the ill-advised investment practices of recent times is becoming all too evident. In these circumstances, there will be additional calls on the characteristic generosity of British Catholics and I know that you will take lead in calling for solidarity with those in need. The prophetic voice of Christians has an important role in hightlighting the needs of the poor and disadvantages, who can so easily be overlooked in the allocation of limited resources. In their teaching document Choosing the Common Good, the Bishops of England and Wales underlined the importance of the practice of virtue in public life. Today’s circumstances provide a good opportunity to reinforce that message and indeed to encourage people to aspire to higher moral values in every area of their lives, against a background of growing cynicism regarding even the possibility of virtuous living.


Few Catholics, let alone others, will know about the document "The Common Good". Through the media people, including Catholics, are open to many influences. Gay Rights, Womens "Right to Choose" supporters, animal rights activists, Friends of the Earth, make their voices heard.

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As for preaching - isn't that a gift of The Spirit. For to quote Gerry - "not that I think they will use it" - is a sad reflection (not that Gerry is sad!). In my opinion thus we need more humility, them and us that is, but especially them.

PJD

They write documents that are available from Catholic suppliers, what do you want them to do, write something in plain English, put it in an attractive cover, get it into the public libraries and W H Smith? That would not do, it might attract people outside our cosy little Catholic ghetto. RCIA is widely advertised on notice boards inside our churches. If the peasants want to believe they make an effort, come inside our churches and read our parish bulletins.
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ps they needn't expect any of the regulars to speak to them after Mass. We could do with pastoral letters telling us that is our DUTY.
Edited by Rose of York, Thursday, 23. September 2010, 13:17.
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PJD

One suggestion Rose. If they can print a million free 400pp book, then they can do something similar and distribute the catechism - free.

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Rose of York
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PJD, why not something simpler than the Catechism, free? Expressions such as "The Sacramental Economy" are off putting for the typical person who is curious about Catholics, wondering what we believe and do, and why. They want to know why Our Lady is so important to us, why the Catholic Church forbids artificial contraception, why we have statues, why we call priests Father. A simple explanatory booklet would help people understand we are not completely nutty.

Anyway, as Gerry says, preaching is a Gift of the Spirit. We have all met people who react to gifts with "You didn't have to give me that, there was no need, I wasn't expecting anything. Well, if you insist I accept it thank you very much but like I said there was no need." :wh:
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Eileenanne

Rose said:

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... they needn't expect any of the regulars to speak to them after Mass. We could do with pastoral letters telling us that is our DUTY.


It isn't Rose. And it is something that needs to be done only with care and sensitivity. Some cautious enquirers could easily find it off-putting.

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