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Being a nun
Topic Started: Monday, 30. August 2010, 10:41 (471 Views)
Clare
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Gerard
Monday, 30. August 2010, 12:45
Clare,

My sources are nuns in good standing with their orders. I will not volunteer names and addresses for them. Never the less you may not count them as nuns - they dont wear habits.
That doesn't surprise me.

I bet the reject Church teaching too.

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Gerard

see post below
Edited by Gerard, Monday, 30. August 2010, 13:02.
"The institutional and charismatic aspects are quasi coessential to the Church's constitution" (Pope John Paul II, 1998).
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Clare
Monday, 30. August 2010, 12:54
Gerard
Monday, 30. August 2010, 12:45
Clare,

My sources are nuns in good standing with their orders. I will not volunteer names and addresses for them. Never the less you may not count them as nuns - they dont wear habits.
That doesn't surprise me.

I bet the reject Church teaching too.

[/prejudice, but probably accurate!]
Nauseating comment Clare.

I have never heard any disagreement about doctrine from them. What I have observed are lives of self sacrifice and service to church and humanity.

Gerry
"The institutional and charismatic aspects are quasi coessential to the Church's constitution" (Pope John Paul II, 1998).
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Clare
Monday, 30. August 2010, 12:54
Gerard
Monday, 30. August 2010, 12:45
Clare,
My sources are nuns in good standing with their orders. I will not volunteer names and addresses for them. Never the less you may not count them as nuns - they dont wear habits.
That doesn't surprise me.
I bet the reject Church teaching too.
[/prejudice, but probably accurate!]
I'm beginning to despair of having a serious consideration of what being a nun is, and SHOULD BE, about.
Can we ALL please at least TRY discussing like adults.
If this is Catholicism... :wall:
Anne-Marie
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Gerard
Monday, 30. August 2010, 13:01
Clare
Monday, 30. August 2010, 12:54
Gerard
Monday, 30. August 2010, 12:45
Clare,

My sources are nuns in good standing with their orders. I will not volunteer names and addresses for them. Never the less you may not count them as nuns - they dont wear habits.
That doesn't surprise me.

I bet the reject Church teaching too.

[/prejudice, but probably accurate!]
Nauseating comment Clare.
As was your comment about me not considering them nuns.

And while wearing a habit may not be a guarantee of orthodoxy these days, I simply cannot imagine a nun who does not wear one supporting Church teaching on, for example, women priests.

I'm willing to be proved wrong if someone reassure me that there are some, though.
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Gerard

Unbelievable !!

The nuns I speak of do not want women priests.

is there no end to your calumny?

gerry
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Anne-Marie
Monday, 30. August 2010, 13:06
I'm beginning to despair of having a serious consideration of what being a nun is, and SHOULD BE, about.
Can we ALL please at least TRY discussing like adults.
Sorry.

But I don't think I've been off-topic.

I'll see if I can see any of the film on Youtube or something.
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Gerard
Monday, 30. August 2010, 13:16
Unbelievable !!

The nuns I speak of do not want women priests.

is there no end to your calumny?
Ok.

I didn't think you'd consider it calumny though, since you also reject teaching in this regard, Gerry.
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Gerard
Monday, 30. August 2010, 10:55
Nuns nowadays are far more balanced human beings.
Is that not tantamount to calumny of nuns before VII?
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Gerard

Since nuns (and monks) routinely whipped themselves and engaged in humiliation of themselves and their sister (brothers in the case of monks) prior to V2 I do not consider it calumny to say that they are more balanced nowadays.

Gerry
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Monday, 30. August 2010, 13:27
Since nuns (and monks) routinely whipped themselves and engaged in humiliation of themselves and their sister (brothers in the case of monks) prior to V2 I do not consider it calumny to say that they are more balanced nowadays.
I don't think it's necessarily unbalanced to do those things.

In some cases it may be. In others not so.

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Monday, 30. August 2010, 10:41
Are we to humiliate others as we apparently have to in a convent?
As I say, I've not seen the film.

Where does this duty to humiliate others come into things?

We ought to accept humiliations (turning the other cheek 'n'all!), but I've not heard of there being any duty to humiliate others.

I believe there is some story of St Therese of Lisieux, and another nun who would deliberately splash her with dirty water, during laundry time, and the saint, instead of complaining about it, decided to welcome these splashings.

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Many years ago a BBC presenter visited and interviewed the Poor Clare Nuns in York. Considering they are confined to the convent except perhaps for emergency medical treatment and two or three extern sisters who deal with the public and go outside as required for business and shopping, they seemed very happy indeed. One of their jobs is to make breads for Holy Communion which are supplied to Catholic and non-Catholic churches. About forty years ago a young sister from another convent used to love racing through the very busy streets of York on a racing bicycle - no hands on the handlebars! Later another young nun from yet another community came to the office to enquire about flights to Ireland for her holiday with her relatives. She had the choice of a very early flight from home or another which would entail her arriving at the convent mid-evening. She thought and thought. I jokingly asked: "Are you worried about having to climb the drainpipe to get in?". Whereupn she put her head on the counter, said nothing and decided there and then. (Don't ask me what she decided). A few days later a colleague came in and I related what happened. "Oh!" she replied: "You hit the nail on the head. She often goes out without keys and has to climb the drainpipe to get in!". A non-Catholic friend of ours used to run a book shop just diagonally across the road junction from one of the convents. Two of the nuns used to regularly call in to browse and have a chat 'to get away from Mother (name)". Which all goes to show nuns can be just as human as laypeople.

A (then) young man I knew visited his brother in Canada and attended a parochial event. He took a fancy to a very pleasant and presentable young lady and thought his search for a wife was over ..... only to discover she was nun! He never did marry before he died!
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Clare wrote:
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And while wearing a habit may not be a guarantee of orthodoxy these days, I simply cannot imagine a nun who does not wear one supporting Church teaching on, for example, women priests.

I'm willing to be proved wrong if someone reassure me that there are some, though.


ok, I'll bite. I know a lot of nuns,some of them good friends, and absolutely none of them support women priests. They also don't wear what might be considered traditional habits, wearing modest everyday dress with a short veil, if worn at all. They might not look like the picture postcard image of a nun, but would be appalled to think that anyone presumed to know what they thought about women priests or any other topic.
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Anne-Marie
Monday, 30. August 2010, 12:38
Clare
Monday, 30. August 2010, 12:25
Gerard
Monday, 30. August 2010, 11:20
Not according my sources Claire...
And your sources are?

Maria Monk?
Chiniquy?
Jack Chick?
I was trying to stimulate a serious and adult discussion about nuns, not descend to juvenile comments like this!

PLEASE: :topicbaack:
Anne-Marie you will have my full support in your effort. This will not descend into trivial digressions from the topic.
Keep the Faith!

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