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The crucified thieves
Topic Started: Monday, 23. August 2010, 21:11 (274 Views)
Mairtin
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pete
Tuesday, 24. August 2010, 11:31
I wonder what Our Lord would have to say about identity theft? If someone clears out your Lloyds bank account, give them your Abbey savings account details as well :wink:
I wonder should Christians have an identity worth stealing or a bank account worth clearing out?
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Mairtin
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Rose of York
Tuesday, 24. August 2010, 11:59
... It may be that the thief stole the coat because he was so poor he was in dire need ... If I catch a person stealing bread from my kitchen, and I have reason to believe that person has no money, and no food, and is desperate with hunger, I should offer more food, sufficient for the day. the least I can do is give more food, to add to the bread, to make a sandwich.
I'm not sure that what Jesus was getting at in this instance was the need to help people worse off than ourselves, I'm inclined to think that He was getting at how unimportant material possessions should be to us and how they can interfere between us and God, a theme He turned to time and time again like in that wonderful passage from Matthew 6:19-34:

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19 Do not store up treasures for yourselves on earth, where moth and woodworm destroy them and thieves can break in and steal.
20 But store up treasures for yourselves in heaven, where neither moth nor woodworm destroys them and thieves cannot break in and steal.
21 For wherever your treasure is, there will your heart be too.
22 'The lamp of the body is the eye. It follows that if your eye is clear, your whole body will be filled with light.
23 But if your eye is diseased, your whole body will be darkness. If then, the light inside you is darkened, what darkness that will be!
24 'No one can be the slave of two masters: he will either hate the first and love the second, or be attached to the first and despise the second. You cannot be the slave both of God and of money.
25 'That is why I am telling you not to worry about your life and what you are to eat, nor about your body and what you are to wear. Surely life is more than food, and the body more than clothing!
26 Look at the birds in the sky. They do not sow or reap or gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not worth much more than they are?
27 Can any of you, however much you worry, add one single cubit to your span of life?
28 And why worry about clothing? Think of the flowers growing in the fields; they never have to work or spin;
29 yet I assure you that not even Solomon in all his royal robes was clothed like one of these.
30 Now if that is how God clothes the wild flowers growing in the field which are there today and thrown into the furnace tomorrow, will he not much more look after you, you who have so little faith?
31 So do not worry; do not say, "What are we to eat? What are we to drink? What are we to wear?"
32 It is the gentiles who set their hearts on all these things. Your heavenly Father knows you need them all.
33 Set your hearts on his kingdom first, and on God's saving justice, and all these other things will be given you as well.
34 So do not worry about tomorrow: tomorrow will take care of itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.'
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Gerard

OsullivanB
Tuesday, 24. August 2010, 12:23
Gerard
Tuesday, 24. August 2010, 08:51
Anyone know what Greek word is actually used - and possible translations?

Gerry
Matthew and Mark both use "lestai" - robbers/plunderers/pirates; Luke says "kakourgoi" - criminals/thieves/robbers; John just says "alloi" - others.

The lexicon used is the magisterial one by Liddell and Scott - sixth edition 1869.
Thanks OsB

This and its follow up post show that the "others" had not committed trivial crimes.

Gerry
"The institutional and charismatic aspects are quasi coessential to the Church's constitution" (Pope John Paul II, 1998).
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