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news Paper Interview with cardinal keith O'Brien; Cardinal keith O'Brien Interview
Topic Started: Sunday, 8. August 2010, 12:03 (525 Views)
Angus Toanimo
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Rose of York
Sunday, 8. August 2010, 12:23
Cardinal O'Brien pulls no punches, seems to me to be loyal Church man and loyal Scotsman. We could do with men of his calibre in England and Wales, also in Ireland.
Some funy stuff going on in this forum!!

First off, we had an Italian call an Englishman an Irishman, now we have an Englishwoman of Irish descent calling an Irishman a Scot! :rofl:
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PJD
Monday, 9. August 2010, 17:22
"Don't they like giving good publicity to Catholic leaders? "

Perhaps they think publicity best left in low profile lest it might inflame sectararian cultures.

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That does not explain the low key coverage south of the border.
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Angus Toanimo
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Monday, 9. August 2010, 19:44
PJD
Monday, 9. August 2010, 17:22
"Don't they like giving good publicity to Catholic leaders? "

Perhaps they think publicity best left in low profile lest it might inflame sectararian cultures.

PJD




That does not explain the low key coverage south of the border.
If you were an English Cardinal and "leader" of "England's Catholics", would you want the news of your much better Scots counterpart who outshines you possibly in every aspect of your ministry, reaching those that it is claimed you lead? I'd find it rather humiliating.

Not saying that is this definitely the reason but it is a possibility.
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Cardinal O.Brien's statements are often reported by BBC and ITV news, that is why I am surprised there has been little coverage of this statement. It may be due to other current news stories having to take prominence.
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PJD

"Cardinal O.Brien's statements are often reported by BBC and ITV news, that is why I am surprised there has been little coverage of this statement. It may be due to other current news stories having to take prominence."

I agree that is a possibility; and there are many possibilities e.g. as Patrick mentioned above. Sometimes it is difficult to guess what twists and turns the media take. However there is one question in my mind, which is why earlier I opinioned this matter as 'difficult'; which is:

In this instance (State to State matters) would Pope Benedict have used the same language as the Cardinal?

Personally I doubt it.

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Jamie

Isn't it odd that this was headline news on Radio 4 at 8 o'clock on Sunday morning, then the media went strangely quiet about it? Don't they like giving good publicity to Catholic leaders?

Not at all Rose. This was an ideal item of "soft" (as opposed to "hard") news for a Sunday morning for a news editor with one eye on the God slot, but one which was unlikely to compete with more pressing international news later in the day.
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I couldn't imagine one of our hierarchy telling a Labour politician:

"I hope Pope Benedict gives you hell for what has happened over the past ten years!"

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tomais

Support for cardinal Keith continues in the Herald, Scotland, with many vigorous letters.
Some,supposed,worried advocates in and around parliament Square-an interesting juxtapositioning as the Festival Fringe buskers are also there in full crowd drawing force-despite the rain these last two days.
One very senior judge,a catholic, not really quite so happy; too close to the hidden papers?
ook out for the Cardials celebratory performance on the Fringe! Tickets sold out- or rather no more left as they were of course free.
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Patrick
Tuesday, 10. August 2010, 08:34
I couldn't imagine one of our hierarchy telling a Labour politician:

"I hope Pope Benedict gives you hell for what has happened over the past ten years!"

Top lad.
I suppose if there had been wide media coverage there would have been cries of "he's got no right to mix politics and religion, he should stick to his own job and keep his nose out" If anybody says that to me, my response will be "His job is to preach and teach Christianity. There is more to religion than holding church services. Cardinal O'Brien has spoken on the moral aspect of the apparent search for vengeance. Jesus did just that, if you don't believe me read the gospels."
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PJD

"One very senior judge,a catholic, not really quite so happy; too close to the hidden papers?"

Tomais - perhaps this might have something to do with Ceefax reporting today re transparency of medical papers called for by the Americans and actually demanded by 'Scottish Labour'. Thus this murky business continues.

Transparency nothing to do with vengeance Tomais.

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tomais

That senior Catholic Judge may very well be known to me. Indeed in a parish not very far from where I live.
This all all a very very egg shell like history.
Many of sources come from what is known as " that conspiracy theory". Others have great concerns for the integraty of the Scottish legal sytem.
Time is not on any ones side.
Cardinal Keith? I am genuinely biased - with good cause.
As an aside; see vestments to be worn at the Papal glasgow Mass- each priest to pay for his own garments; then see the true costs of these; ah me-money again!
Source of this entry? Herald!
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PJD

"Others have great concerns for the integraty of the Scottish legal sytem."

Others tomais, particularly in England, have great concerns about the whole integraty of the Scottish separation in principle. They vote on English affairs, we cannot on theirs etc. etc. Point finger at Brown.

"Time is not on any ones side."

Yes if Cameron has his way; also money comes into it - or were you thinking of something different?

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PJD
Wednesday, 11. August 2010, 08:50
Thus this murky business continues.

Transparency nothing to do with vengeance.
Indeed, PJD.
For anyone with even a small knowledge on this subject, there is considerably more than just doubt about whether that individual had even been remotely connected with the incident for which he was jailed.
Or where any enquiry about what really happened might lead... and who might then be implicated.
It's a murky road even I am a tad reluctant to go down....
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Has anyone seen news of any reaction in the USA to Cardinal O'Briens Comments?

We used to have members in the USA.
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PJD

"Has anyone seen news of any reaction in the USA to Cardinal O'Briens Comments?

We used to have members in the USA."


Not surprised Derek. Discretion better part of valour?

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