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news Paper Interview with cardinal keith O'Brien; Cardinal keith O'Brien Interview
Topic Started: Sunday, 8. August 2010, 12:03 (524 Views)
tomais

Front page of Scotland on Sunday also BBC TV and radio reports;the Cardinal's responses to the USA's demands for interview with Scottish politicians.
Lockerbie.
The Cardinal adversely critisisng the USA's records on punishments etc.
All on line.
Catholic media Office have sent out an e-mail.
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The Scotsman newspaper article, please note it has three pages.

http://news.scotsman.com/news/Cardinal-Keith-O39-Brien-We.6463042.jp

BBC article
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-10905562

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Cardinal O'Brien pulls no punches, seems to me to be loyal Church man and loyal Scotsman. We could do with men of his calibre in England and Wales, also in Ireland.
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PJD

This is a difficult matter. There are serious spiritual dissections to be made here.

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tomais

Not Scotsman news paper; Scotland on Sunday',todays paper.
Cardinal Keith celebrates 25 years of priesthood this month.
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"Cardinal Keith celebrates 25 years of priesthood this month."

Now that does surprise me tom.

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No wonder Cardinal O'Brien has his feet firmly on the ground, and activity in the grey matter. Unlike many other bishops he was not poured into the mould of monastic boarding school, pontifical college in Rome and a series of appointments to agencies of the bishops conference, then turned out of the mould when set. Cardinal O'Brien has actually done parish work! He even went to university!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Michael_Patrick_O%27Brien

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Early life

Keith Patrick O’Brien was born at Ballycastle in County Antrim, Northern Ireland on 17 March 1938. After primary education in Ballycastle, the he moved with his family to Scotland where his father was serving with the Royal Navy at Faslane, initially attending St Stephen’s Primary School, Dalmuir before continuing to secondary school at St Patrick’s High School, Dumbarton. His family then moved to Edinburgh, where he completed his secondary education at Holy Cross Academy, before studying at the University of Edinburgh where he gained a Bachelor of Science degree in Chemistry in 1959 (and later a Diploma of Education in 1966). His studies for the Priesthood were at St. Andrew’s College, Drygrange, Roxburghshire and he was ordained priest on 3 April 1965 by his predecessor, Cardinal Gordon Gray. Initially, serving as curate at Holy Cross, Edinburgh from 1965 until 1966, he completed his teacher training certificate at Moray House College of Education. For the next 5 years, from 1966 to 1971, he was employed by Fife County Council as a teacher of mathematics and science; he also served as chaplain to St Columba’s Secondary School, initially in Cowdenbeath and then in Dunfermline, while assisting at St Bride’s Parish, Cowdenbeath.

He was then moved to full time parish apostolate in St Patrick’s, Kilsyth from 1972 until 1975 and then St Mary’s, Bathgate from 1975 until 1978. He served as spiritual director to the students at St Andrew’s College, Drygrange from 1978 until 1980 then as Rector of St Mary’s College, the junior seminary at Blairs near Aberdeen, from 1980 until 1985.
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PJD

"Cardinal Keith celebrates 25 years of priesthood this month."

So this information was incorrect Rose! I thought it odd.

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Archbishop of St Andrews and Edinburgh

Cardinal O’Brien was nominated archbishop of St Andrews and Edinburgh on 30 May 1985 and was ordained to the episcopate by Cardinal Gray, then archbishop emeritus of St Andrews and Edinburgh, at St Mary’s Cathedral, Edinburgh on 5 August 1985.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Michael_Patrick_O%27BrienCardinal Cardinal O'Brien has been Archbishop for 25 years.
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PJD

So Cardinal Keith celebrates 45 years of priesthood this month.

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tomais

Appologies folk for the wrong anniversary.
Tom
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Fair enough tom; understandable i.e. 45 a priest and 25 a bishop.

Very quiet here and elsewhere on this topic tom! Wonder why.

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Has nobody read the article in The Scotsman? Cardinal O'Brien has absolutely slated the American culture of vengeance.

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For Christians, the teaching of St Paul in his letter to the Romans is clear: "Vengeance is mine says the Lord", revenge is not a path we should take. A statement from the Criminal, Justice and Parole Division of the Scottish Government earlier this year stating that "the perpetration of an atrocity should not be a reason for losing sight of the values people in Scotland seek to uphold and the faith and beliefs by which we seek to live the values of humanity and compassion" I hope is a reflection of a view that would be held and endorsed by people of many faiths and none.

Since 1976, 1,221 people have been executed in the US. Its execution rate is only outdone by Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran and China.

These are not countries known for placing human rights on a pedestal. It is certainly invidious company for the world's leading democracy to find itself in.



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Perhaps the consciences of some Americans, especially members of the US Senate, should be stirred by the ways in which "justice" is administered in so many of their own states. Perhaps it is time for them to "cast out the beam from their own eye before seeking the mote in their brothers". Perhaps they should direct their gaze inwards, rather than scrutinising the workings of the Scottish justice system.

Scotland's legal system allowed the Scottish justice secretary to release Megrahi on compassionate grounds, following due process and based on clear medical advice. It was a decision for Scottish ministers and no others to make. Scotland's justice system has embedded, alongside punishment, the idea of reform.

It is one reason why the finality of the death penalty has rightly been rejected.

I believe that only God can forgive and show ultimate compassion to those who commit terrible crimes and I would rather live in a country where justice is tempered by mercy than exist in one where vengeance and retribution are the norm.
In the interview the Cardinal showed due compassion for all who suffered as a result of the Lockerbie bombing, he acknowledged that "It is completely natural and understandable that many of those most directly affected, the bereaved and their families would want justice even vengeance.", and added that "we must show the world that the standards of the murderer and his disdain for human life are not our standards. They may plunge to the depths of human conduct but we will not follow them."

Isn't it odd that this was headline news on Radio 4 at 8 o'clock on Sunday morning, then the media went strangely quiet about it? Don't they like giving good publicity to Catholic leaders?
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PJD

"Don't they like giving good publicity to Catholic leaders? "

Perhaps they think publicity best left in low profile lest it might inflame sectararian cultures.

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tomais

Thre has been a critisism of the BBC,( EBC) for some time now about balanced broadcasting; little perhaps to do with catholocism;BUT perhaps Scottish catholocism and indeed Scottish news; see ongoing controversy over Scottish 6
And this is not parochialism
Tom
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