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| Topic Started: Thursday, 29. July 2010, 01:10 (346 Views) | |
| denis | Thursday, 29. July 2010, 01:10 Post #1 |
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Priests in Ireland are being canvassed as to forming a union to be able to express their views in the current situation as they have no platform to speak from. I think this would be a good idea as long as the laity keep their noses out and let them get on with it |
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| Rose of York | Thursday, 29. July 2010, 11:47 Post #2 |
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If such an organisation is run well, by priests loyal to their ministry, for the good of the Church, the priests and the people to whom they minister good could come of it. Much depends upon the aims of this proposed organisation. RTE News Herald ie Catholic Culture website Catholic Culture A blog post by a newly ordained priest rings alarm bells. Blog Post |
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| Derekap | Thursday, 29. July 2010, 15:19 Post #3 |
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I thought there is, or was, an organistion for priests in England (and probably Wales). |
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| Rose of York | Thursday, 29. July 2010, 15:51 Post #4 |
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http://www.irishcatholic.ie/site/content/new-priests-reform-movement-launched
http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=7032
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| Derekap | Thursday, 29. July 2010, 16:09 Post #5 |
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To me, some of the aims seem a bit rebellious! |
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| Rose of York | Thursday, 29. July 2010, 16:25 Post #6 |
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Derek. try reading this one, by a newly ordained priest. He shares your concerns. Blog Post |
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| Rose of York | Wednesday, 4. August 2010, 22:15 Post #7 |
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This is not a union for the welfare of priests, it looks to me more like an attempt at spiritual mutiny. From the blog I mentioned above.
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| PJD | Thursday, 5. August 2010, 07:14 Post #8 |
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"To me, some of the aims seem a bit rebellious!" "....more like an attempt at spiritual mutiny." Same here Derek. Ditto Rose. "This is starting to look like a lobby-group rather than a generally representative organisation for priests." Inclined to agree with the blogger. Will probably come to nothing. PJD |
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| Peter | Thursday, 5. August 2010, 09:01 Post #9 |
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Behind all the political correct rhetoric in the quote Rose has posted my observations are that this "Union" is in favour of pushing for the following: Dumbing down the practice of our worship perhaps putting the wording in tabloid form - how patronising. Re-writing everything that has previously been taught about sexual morality. Democracy in the Church - I somehow don't think this is an option! The Conscience Clause - don't worry, no need to go to confession anymore as what you think (whatever it is) is right. Moves towards Women Priests. Full implementation of Gay Rights if people are believers so weddings for gay couples, which is what this means in reality! Basically, that anything goes in this "sophisticated" world of ours because we (the Union) know best. I'm not saying that any of the above is right or wrong but reading between the lines it does seem to mean that there is a political agenda here, still enough controversy from me. |
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| Gerard | Thursday, 5. August 2010, 11:10 Post #10 |
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I was rather impressed by the list of aims. I think some have been too quick to read too much into them. But when I clicked through to the newspaper report this paragraph caused my heart to miss a beat.
Why? Because there has been a prophecy circulating in CCR circles for a few years that "A fire will come out of Athlone". Meaning, of course, that a move of the Holy Spirit i.e. Renewal/Revival will start in Athlone and spread out from there. If there is widespread support for this (as the article says) then it could be very interesting indeed. Take another look at the list of "aims". Gerry |
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| Clare | Thursday, 5. August 2010, 11:26 Post #11 |
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Putting the "Fun Dame" into Fundamentalist
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Looks like it to me. |
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S.A.G. Motes 'n' Beams blog Join in the Fun Trivia Quiz! | |
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| Derekap | Thursday, 5. August 2010, 11:30 Post #12 |
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Could not the 'Fire of Athlone' be detrimental rather than constructive? I hope we don't see Fr Paddy O'Brien parading up and down outside outside church on Sunday morning with a board saying he and some fellow priests are on strike and asking passing car drivers to honk in support - and calling other priests and EMsHC scabs! |
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| Clare | Thursday, 5. August 2010, 11:31 Post #13 |
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Putting the "Fun Dame" into Fundamentalist
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Of course? Or it might mean something else. Or it might be "twaddle". |
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| Gerard | Thursday, 5. August 2010, 12:03 Post #14 |
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| OsullivanB | Thursday, 5. August 2010, 12:04 Post #15 |
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It is fascinating to see how people project their own hopes and fears onto a fairly generalised list of things to think about. I shall wait and see what, if anything at all, comes of this. Then, perhaps, I'll comment. |
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