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| Clare | Wednesday, 9. June 2010, 11:27 Post #121 |
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In Church teaching. I'll find the relevant bits shortly... |
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| Josephine | Wednesday, 9. June 2010, 11:29 Post #122 |
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If Marie Stopes Centres can advertise themselves on TV, why can't/don't pro-life centres also advertise themselves on TV? |
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| OsullivanB | Wednesday, 9. June 2010, 11:29 Post #123 |
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Clare, I did not sepcify what the education should consist of or who should give it. What I do know is that my father failed to give me any, and my mother's attempt to fill the gap was brave but useless. |
| "There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation." Herbert Spencer | |
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| Clare | Wednesday, 9. June 2010, 12:44 Post #124 |
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Well, it is true that fathers should instruct sons and mothers daughters, ideally. Obviously, I'm not opposed to parents giving their children instruction, however I don't think it needs to be done from an early age. Anyhow, here's Divini Illus Magistri, Pope Pius XI
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| Mairtin | Wednesday, 9. June 2010, 12:46 Post #125 |
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In other words, sex education is not forbidden. |
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| Clare | Wednesday, 9. June 2010, 13:14 Post #126 |
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What is allowed is:
What is not allowed:
Now, that would seem to preclude group instruction, and at a young age, from people who do not have the grace of state. Now, are we agreed that any sex education should be given privately, individually, and to older children, by their parents? And that sex education should not be given to mixed groups of young children? |
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| Gerard | Wednesday, 9. June 2010, 13:45 Post #127 |
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Clare, "Hold the commission to teach?" Is the suggestion that this "delicate" education of children be done in private by priests? Gerry |
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| Clare | Wednesday, 9. June 2010, 13:48 Post #128 |
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I don't know. I also notice that they are to have the grace of state. That'd be parents or priests I guess, given that qualifying as a teacher is not itself a sacrament that confers grace. |
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| Mairtin | Wednesday, 9. June 2010, 14:23 Post #129 |
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You said it's forboidden, it's not, you were talking nonsense just as you usually do when you try to select bits out of encyclicals to support your personal interpretation of Church teaching. |
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| Mairtin | Wednesday, 9. June 2010, 14:33 Post #130 |
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From the Scottish Catholic Media Office (April 2008)
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| Clare | Wednesday, 9. June 2010, 16:28 Post #131 |
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Sex education from an early age, which is what OsB said was necessary and what I said was forbidden, is certainly forbidden. |
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| Clare | Wednesday, 9. June 2010, 16:29 Post #132 |
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It certainly is. |
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| Mairtin | Wednesday, 9. June 2010, 17:07 Post #133 |
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So when you say "Now, that would seem to .." you actually mean "is certainly ...", that's useful to know for future reference ![]() BTW, what is the Church's definition of "an early age"? |
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| Mairtin | Wednesday, 9. June 2010, 17:12 Post #134 |
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You're on a roll here, Clare, in just a couple of days you've managed to dismiss the pope as unCatholic and one of the most respected Cardinals in these islands as unCatholic, are you going to try for three in a row?
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| Clare | Wednesday, 9. June 2010, 17:22 Post #135 |
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No, Mairtin. I dismissed something the Pope said as unCatholic, and a programme the Cardinal praised as unCatholic. I do not think that unCatholic ideas become Catholic by virtue of being expressed by senior clergy. If these things are Catholic, then things their predecessors have said are not. I ask you again, does that make their predecessors unCatholic, do you think, Mairtin? |
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