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| Topic Started: Thursday, 29. October 2009, 15:28 (897 Views) | |
| Rose of York | Thursday, 29. October 2009, 15:28 Post #1 |
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The Luddites were a movement of British textile artisans in the early nineteenth century who objected to the changes produces by the introduction of new machinery during the Industrial Revolution. They felt they would be left without work, and the necessity to move from their homes in the hills to the new towns would change. For a short time, the protests were so vehement, with violence and the destruction of factories and machines, the authorities had to call in the troops. It could be argued that the changes led to suffering in the short term, and improvements in the long term. Could this be applied to The Church? In recent years, the terms Luddite has become synonymous with anyone who opposes advance or change, in any aspect of life. In parishes and on Catholic forums, I come across Catholic Luddites who complain about change, whether it be in liturgy, administration, lay involvement or just the introduction of loop systems and toilets. We have experienced many changes in the past forty years. Some of them don't suit me, but who am I to think I know best? Well?  |
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| Joseph | Thursday, 29. October 2009, 16:55 Post #2 |
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I'm not sure it could be applied to the Catholic Church - its problems are far more severe and serious than that. On the other hand, some may believe it could be applied to the current Royal Mail dispute. |
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| Rose of York | Thursday, 29. October 2009, 18:29 Post #3 |
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Changes cause the problems, we are not supposed to welcome change.  Catholic Luddites don't like new hymns because they are new. They don't see the need for toilets in churches because we never used to have them. The sight of a Catholic church built in brick makes them cringe. Show them some modern art depicting Christ, his mother or the saints and their hands are thrown up in horror.This is all meant to be light hearted. |
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| Clare | Thursday, 29. October 2009, 18:48 Post #4 |
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Whereas, traditionalists don't like them because they are trite drivel.
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| Mrs.Pogle | Thursday, 29. October 2009, 19:28 Post #5 |
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That's just what I was going to say! These written in the 70s/80s are by far the worstt. I just don't sing them! I would rather keep silent than insult God with such horrible rubbish 
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| Clare | Thursday, 29. October 2009, 19:50 Post #6 |
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If I were a fuzzy wuzzy bear, I'd thank you Lord, for my fuzzy wuzzy hair. But I just thank you Father for making me me. 
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| Emee | Thursday, 29. October 2009, 19:57 Post #7 |
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Clare Little children sing that song and get a lot out of it - it's a simple way of praising God along with "Colours of Day" and many others of that ilk. I like both traditional and modern hymns, but modern ones can be easily learnt by children in school assemblies especially if there are actions to them... |
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| Rose of York | Thursday, 29. October 2009, 20:27 Post #8 |
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Real Catholic Luddites don't need reasons for disliking things, other than that they are new, and a threat to the familiarity of all that we have known since Pontius was a pilot. Real Catholic Luddites want all churches to be built in stone, in the Gothic style. I propose a circular church. It will have two sanctuaries at opposite ends. One will be traditional, with the altar against the wall. The other will be modern, made from local eco friendly materials. The two will be divided by a soundproof windowless screen. Each person attending will have a choice The church will be built on a turntable. Trad Mass will commence 30 minutes before New Rite Mass. At the appropriate time the turntable will slowly, gently rotate so the Trads will face East. After Mass all attendees will gather for coffee and chat. How do we arrange that? Do they meet as one single, worshipping, supportive, friendly community, split up, or do the Luddites go straight home (on foot, naturally) on the grounds that they never had coffee after Mass in "my day"? |
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| Mrs.Pogle | Thursday, 29. October 2009, 20:38 Post #9 |
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Disliking awful songs from the era of big hair, collars and shoulder pads isn't exactly being resistant to change! 
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| SeanJ | Thursday, 29. October 2009, 21:30 Post #10 |
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No, no, no. Romanesque. None of this modern stuff. Sean |
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| Patrick | Thursday, 29. October 2009, 21:30 Post #11 |
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A tip, if I may: If you're gonna have a church like that, paint the soundproof glass....and make sure your eco-friendly altar is fireproof... 
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| Rose of York | Thursday, 29. October 2009, 22:09 Post #12 |
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I'm only stirring it. I like stone built Gothic style churches, cannot bear to see them "modernised" and my taste in liturgical music includes ancient and modern (lower case a and m). Priests dressed as laity: No thanks! They should be proud of their Church and their calling. |
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| Mairtin | Thursday, 29. October 2009, 22:45 Post #13 |
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Some typical 1980's drivel and horrible rubbish .... |
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| Emee | Thursday, 29. October 2009, 22:59 Post #14 |
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Thanks Mairtin Absolutely beautiful. I'd forgotten what a fantastic voice Sarah Brightman has. How lovely... |
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| OsullivanB | Thursday, 29. October 2009, 23:17 Post #15 |
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To be aesthetically truthful trads prefer the old trite drivel to the new trite drivel. |
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