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Halloween
Topic Started: Friday, 26. October 2007, 13:06 (969 Views)
nelly k

Thanks Gerry and Derek, :D who needs rotten Halloween as it is now,
nelly
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As we're approaching that time again, I thought I would resurrect this thread. The Night of Light website is still available but appears to be untouched since 2001, which is a pity as this was a really useful initiative.
I have,however, noticed that alongside the witches and demons costumes in the shops this year, there are also angel costumes - so perhaps it had some effect after all.

KatyA
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We always find that a supply of the cheapest and nastiest sweets we can find usually discourages further calls from the TOTs (Trick or Treaters)!

The word gets round you see!

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CARLO
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OsullivanB

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Occultists use the eve of All Saints Day to try to counteract the power of the prayers offered on the Feasts of All Saints and the Holy Souls.

They might think they were doing so, but surely they'd be wasting their time?
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Bob Crowley

As far as I'm concerned, Halloween here (Australia) is merely being pushed by marketeers trying to capitalise on one more American tradition. There may have been an original religious custom behind it, but once the world gets hold of a tradition, you never get it back again.

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Halloween falls on October 31 because of a pope, and its observance is the result of medieval Catholic piety.

Seehere for further details.

Samhain was Celtic feast: not an English feast. England as an entity did not exist when the Celts celebrated Samhain.

The current ‘noise’ about Halloween is purely an American marketing ploy, which was not accepted in England until recently. The English didn’t need Halloween because they celebrated ‘Bonfire Night.’ Apparently up until the second world war, they used to burn effigies of the Pope along with an effigy of Guy Fawkes.




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Halloween (I mean of course the pagan nonsense rather than the Eve of All Hallows) was not observed in England until it was imported via American TV shows in the late 1970s.

The "trick or treat" nonsense is particularly galling for Catholics as it originates from the 17th and 18th centuries when on Guy Fawkes night protestant revellers wearing masks would go to the homes of Catholics (who had no legal rights) taunting them with a demand for beer and cakes.

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OsullivanB
Saturday, 25. October 2008, 16:58
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Occultists use the eve of All Saints Day to try to counteract the power of the prayers offered on the Feasts of All Saints and the Holy Souls.

They might think they were doing so, but surely they'd be wasting their time?
I doubt it. They put their petitions to Satan, who does have power. Also, their evil intent could corrupt people who have gone along to their meetings for what they consider to be "a laugh".

Right now, I am listening to Mother Angelica classics, on EWTN. The programme was first broadcast in 1992. Mother has described some of the blasphemies and desecrations that take place on Halloween night. They are so dreadful, they can do nothing but harm.
Keep the Faith!

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I've just read on the BBC News that the police are anticipating a lot of folk up on Pendle Hill again this year. And they aren't allowing people to park or bring any motor vehicles near the hill....good idea. Anyone wanting to get up there needs to climb the hill.

I for one, will leave that to the younger generation who are into that sort of thing and I'll take my bags of candy and put them in the cupboard for Mick to consume, as we don't hand out candy to the kiddies. So there..that's my :twocents: for this year!
Karin

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I haven't heard about Pendle Hill for along time. I remember reading a book years ago called, I think, Witches of Pendle. For some reason I associate this with Lancashire folk who remained Catholic during the reformation.

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With October 31st approaching I was wondering.

What do you think?

Is Halloween evil or is it just a fun holiday for the kids to get dressed up and eat candy.

I always celebrated it as a kid and was intending on taking my kids out for treats (one of these days).

Thoughts?
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artemis836
Tuesday, 20. October 2009, 02:24
With October 31st approaching I was wondering.

What do you think?

Is Halloween evil or is it just a fun holiday for the kids to get dressed up and eat candy.
I suggest you seek advice from your parish priest.
Keep the Faith!

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Derry, just down the road from me, has one of the most popular Halloween festivals in Euope. Mind you, at least ome person does not like it, from last week's Londonderry Sentinel:
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A LOCAL church has launched a petition to try to force Derry City Council to scrap the Halloween carnival.
The annual Halloween festivities in Londonderry bring a curse upon the city, according to the Minister of Newbuildings Independent Methodist Church.

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Quoting Scripture passages, Rev Campbell said: “In light of the warnings of God’s word, we are asking Derry City Council to withdraw their support for the annual Banks of the Foyle Halloween Carnival because it makes evil look innocent and glorifies that which the Lord strongly condemns.

“Christians believe that evil is a real but defeated power. Halloween, however, is about evil triumphant, therefore it is a distortion of reality,” he said.

“The carnival...brings a curse upon the city.”

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Rev Campbell added: “ These are the reasons why we are opposed to Halloween and the Halloween Carnival. A much better alternative to a Halloween Carnival would be a Guy Fawkes Carnival on November 5, celebrating God’s deliverance from this terrorist and his evil accomplices.

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artemis836
Tuesday, 20. October 2009, 02:24
With October 31st approaching I was wondering.

What do you think?

Is Halloween evil or is it just a fun holiday for the kids to get dressed up and eat candy.

I always celebrated it as a kid and was intending on taking my kids out for treats (one of these days).

Thoughts?
Here in the US, Halloween has become a secularized time for partying and some homeowners vie to have the most disgusting or loud yard displays. As Catholics we can improve on the gross and base amusements, decorations and costumes. We can teach our children about the Saints and have them learn about and dress up as a favorite Saint for the annual "trick or treat" trip around the neighborhood or local mall. Someone is bound to ask about the costume(s), giving the perfect opportunity to tell the Saint's story and introduce the concept of All Hallows Eve and All Saints Day. We can decorate in a harvest theme instead of with skeletons and mutilated "bodies." This way we remain Catholic and bring a little salt to the world as we participate in the tradition in a very Catholic way.
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I spent part of my childhood in Derry and in our own home we bobbed for apples and enjoyed indoor fireworks which my father set off in the fireplace. There was no mention of Guy Fawkes and no big public celebration of Hallowe'en.

Later, when we moved to England, it was all Guy Fawkes and no mention of Hallowe'en!

Much later still, when I was a young teacher and the current way of celebrating Hallowe'en was just beginning, I had in my infant class a little boy who was thoroughly afraid of anything to do with Hallowe'en. His mother asked if I could avoid all mention of it. I could but would the other children?

As it happened one of the other children brought in photos of his family's Hallowe'en party so I had to deal with it. I explained about All Souls and that what "hallowed" means, bringing in use of the word in the Our Father. The nervous little boy seemed ok. After school I told his mother what had happened and what I had done.

Next day she told me "No nightmares last night."


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