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| Topic Started: Monday, 19. October 2009, 19:50 (190 Views) | |
| artemis836 | Monday, 19. October 2009, 19:50 Post #1 |
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This was the reading this last Sunday, and I really felt like the Gospel was speaking to me. I have found in my own personal life that I have tried too hard to do great/good things for the glory associated with it, like James and John asking to be on the right hand left hands of God. One line that really rang true to me was when Christ told them that they would share in his suffering but that the glory cannot be promised to them. I wanted to be this great "missionary" and started going overseas to Honduras and then later to Africa. I had convinced myself it was because I was worked up with a desire to help those in great need but in fact it was the glory and honor associated with this sort of work that was attracting me. I was telling God through my actions and with my heart that I wanted to be seen as a great man, a missionary who works to save others both physically and spiritually. Christ answered my plea and gave me the chance to serve in Africa. Thats when I found that this cross was alot more to bear then I ever had dreamed of. It was a deeply humbling experiance and for quite some time I had no idea how I should work to serve God for I felt as if I had nothing to offer. But then on Sunday, this reading rang true for me. Christ spoke of the servants being the ones who truly achieve greatness. I guess that means I need to work to serve the Church in some way, perhaps in a volunteer captacity on Sundays and then seeing where that leads me. I was just so glad to hear something that seemed to spell out what I should do for the Church and for God. I've felt so lost for such a long time since I got burned on missionary work. Does anyone else have any thoughts on this reading? |
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"Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." ~GK Chesterton Professor Winters' Mysteries Discernment for the Diaconate - My Blog | |
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| Powerofone | Monday, 19. October 2009, 20:05 Post #2 |
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The previous chapter is in the same vein. Perhaps you should have read this before going to Africa! "And they came to Caper'na-um; and when he was in the house he asked them, "What were you discussing on the way?" But they were silent; for on the way they had discussed with one another who was the greatest. "And he sat down and called the twelve; and he said to them, "If any one would be first, he must be last of all and servant of all." To me, it's clear that a call to follow in the footsteps is a call to service, not a call to glory. The process of taking up the cross and following Him is a process of shedding hubris, vanity and the ephemera of the world. BTW - why the pagan name? Edited by Powerofone, Monday, 19. October 2009, 20:06.
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| Emee | Monday, 19. October 2009, 20:16 Post #3 |
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P1 Isn't that a bit personal my friend? After all, nobody asks you why you are named after the logo that Sustainable Energy for Ireland have adopted... On the other hand, if Artemis wants to explain I'd be delighted to hear also :) . |
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| Powerofone | Monday, 19. October 2009, 20:17 Post #4 |
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Not true. I've been asked to explain my name several times. |
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| Emee | Monday, 19. October 2009, 20:20 Post #5 |
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Sorry P1. Must have missed that. Artemis? Over to you... |
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| artemis836 | Monday, 19. October 2009, 20:43 Post #6 |
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Well, I always loved Greek/Roman mythology. Artemis/Diana was always my favorite one, she was just cool. Goddess of the hunt and all. http://www.virginia.edu/cla/resources/myth/imagesgods-Pages/Image7.html Plus, as to it being a "pagan" name, that image is of a statue of Artemis from the Vatican museum. We're not puritans now, we don't have to eliminate all traces of paganism, just know that Christ is above all and rules all. These are just fairy tales which mean nothing compared to the Glory of God. |
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"Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." ~GK Chesterton Professor Winters' Mysteries Discernment for the Diaconate - My Blog | |
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| Powerofone | Monday, 19. October 2009, 20:54 Post #7 |
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Idols do not cease to be idols because they are housed in the Vatican Museum. |
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| artemis836 | Monday, 19. October 2009, 21:10 Post #8 |
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And there is a difference between worshiping an idol and having an appreication for the civilization and heritage of Western society. Surely you don't think that we should rename the planets, constellations and stars? This is where we came from. Christ is where we are and where we are going. |
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"Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." ~GK Chesterton Professor Winters' Mysteries Discernment for the Diaconate - My Blog | |
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| Emee | Monday, 19. October 2009, 21:19 Post #9 |
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Artemis Gosh! Well answered!! Yes, I follow your train of thought. |
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| Powerofone | Monday, 19. October 2009, 21:53 Post #10 |
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If Artemis is where we came from, then why does your name suggest a hankering after this past? Of all the saints of the Church which you could have modelled yourself on, you had to plunder the Greek pantheon to find one that best described you? Doesn't say much about our present or future. Personally, I was more into Ares. 
Edited by Powerofone, Monday, 19. October 2009, 22:04.
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| artemis836 | Monday, 19. October 2009, 22:39 Post #11 |
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Two orthodox jews were taking a stroll when they came upon an old woman. She called out to them, asking them to help her across the path for it was full of stones and she worried she might break her ankle. One of the orthodox jews kept his head down and ignored her, refusing to do work on the sabbath for to do so would violate God's law. The other helped the old woman across the path and then resumed his stroll. The two jews continued to walk together and a mile after the incident the jew who did not help broke his silence and exclaimed, "How could you help that woman? It was the sabbath and we are not supposed to work in any way!" The one who helped the old woman replied, "I set her down a mile ago, have you been carrying her all this time?"  Back to the passage of Mark. Anyone have any thoughts on it not connected to my apparently poor taste in usernames? Edited by artemis836, Monday, 19. October 2009, 22:40.
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| OsullivanB | Monday, 19. October 2009, 22:45 Post #12 |
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The Greeks didn't do idols. They did representations of their gods rather as we do representations of our saints. |
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| Powerofone | Tuesday, 20. October 2009, 19:36 Post #13 |
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What about my first post? Didn't you read the bit above the "BTW" note? |
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| Powerofone | Tuesday, 20. October 2009, 19:45 Post #14 |
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Well they would say that, wouldn't they? Doesn't every pagan say that his carved piece of wood , marble or bronze is just a representation of his god? As the god himself is a false god, then the image is the image of a false god, that is to say, an idol. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/idol "a representation or symbol of an object of worship; broadly : a false god" |
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| SeanJ | Tuesday, 20. October 2009, 20:30 Post #15 |
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OK guys, ...the bit above the "BTW" in post #1. Sean Edited by SeanJ, Tuesday, 20. October 2009, 20:30.
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