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"And now for Something Completely Different”; A Fun look atTV, Radio and the arts
Topic Started: Monday, 5. October 2009, 13:53 (407 Views)
Richard Hannay.	Monday, 5. October 2009, 13:53 Post #1
Posts: 463 Group: Members Member #243 Joined: August 25, 2009	40 years on from the 1st Broadcast of "Monty Python's Flying Circus" 5th Oct 1969. I wonder if there are any TV/Radio Shows or other Arts events which we might now consider tame but were at the time groundbreaking. Is there anything that has occurred since Python that can truly say, "And now for Something Completely Different” love it or hate it Python stood at a crossroads of TV which has pushed boundaries well beyond those envisaged by the founding fathers, and mothers, of TV. What makes this pertinent to us as a Catholic Forum? I suppose it is things like "The Life of Brian" which was banned in many parts of the world and yet so many things within t were a perfect parody of the religious bigotry and fanaticism that Jesus hated, i think he would have chuckled at the film, what do you think? We should have some form of regulation about what and when things are broadcast so that is not what I wish to explore I just wondered if things like Monty Python have eroded Moral Standards and were those who Tut Tutted in 1969 right or were they wrong. What is on today that has the same impact on the moral development of the young, if anything? Were you a fan of the "Young Ones" " Men Behaving Badly" . or caught up in the great scandal of "Lady Chatterley" in the early 60's. I invite a light hearted look at what made people "tut" in days past which now seem tame and what makes us laugh today and what would we be uncomfortable allowing he modern teenager to watch. What makes us laugh that should make us "tut" and what makes us "tut" when we ought to "lighten up"? remember "Always look on the bright side of life" Edited by Richard Hannay., Monday, 5. October 2009, 13:57.



Clare	Monday, 5. October 2009, 15:04 Post #2
Wacko Schismatic Traditionalist Woman Posts: 3,092 Group: Members Member #70 Joined: March 27, 2007	Richard Hannay. Monday, 5. October 2009, 13:53 What makes this pertinent to us as a Catholic Forum? I suppose it is things like "The Life of Brian" which was banned in many parts of the world and yet so many things within t were a perfect parody of the religious bigotry and fanaticism that Jesus hated, He would be considered a bigot and fanatic today. I mean to say, being crucified? How extreme can you get? Quote: i think he would have chuckled at the film, what do you think? No, I don't think He would. And I write as someone who has seen it and did chuckle at at least one point! ("You're all individuals!" "Yes, we are!" "I'm not.") Quote: We should have some form of regulation about what and when things are broadcast so that is not what I wish to explore I just wondered if things like Monty Python have eroded Moral Standards and were those who Tut Tutted in 1969 right or were they wrong. They were right. There would have been no "Jerry Springer: The Opera" getting mainstream promotion today, had it not been for "boundary pushing" 40-odd years ago. Quote: Were you a fan of the "Young Ones" " Men Behaving Badly" . or caught up in the great scandal of "Lady Chatterley" in the early 60's. I quite liked some aspects of the Young Ones, and the few episodes of Men Behaving Badly that I saw were quite funny. Quote: I invite a light hearted look at what made people "tut" in days past which now seem tame and what makes us laugh today and what would we be uncomfortable allowing he modern teenager to watch. At the risk of not being light-hearted here, can't you see the progression from tut-inducing, to seeming tame? It's called the slippery slope. That standards have dropped is not something to be pleased about. Quote: What makes us laugh that should make us "tut" and what makes us "tut" when we ought to "lighten up"? remember "Always look on the bright side of life" I know it when I see it!
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Mairtin	Monday, 5. October 2009, 17:55 Post #3
Posts: 1,141 Group: Members Member #206 Joined: August 16, 2008	Clare Monday, 5. October 2009, 15:04 No, I don't think He would. And I write as someone who has seen it and did chuckle at at least one point! ("You're all individuals!" "Yes, we are!" "I'm not.") You didn't chuckle at the "What did the Romans ever do for use?" bit? On a more serious note, I knew that modern "art" had gone seriously downhill but didn't realise quite how far until I read an article in yesterday's Sunday Times about the photo of Brooke Shields naked at 10 years old being removed from display at the Tate Gallery; quite right, in my opinion, but how on earth can they justify remaining exhibits such as an hour-long video of a female artist having sex with a stranger who paid $20,000 for the privilege, a giant close-up of sexual penetration by American artist Jeff Koons who had himself photographed with his former wife, the porn star La Cicciolina and the exhibition another female artist, Cosey Fanni Tutti, who displays pictures taken when she posed years ago for pornographic magazines such as Knave and Park Lane. I'm also disgusted by the near hysterical reaction of so many lovie-dovies from the media screaming hysterically for the release of Roman Polanski; I can just imagine their reaction if it had been a Catholic priest who was on the run from charges for having sex with a 13 year old girl.
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Powerofone	Monday, 5. October 2009, 19:56 Post #4
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Derekap	Tuesday, 6. October 2009, 16:04 Post #5
Posts: 3,414 Group: Members Member #14 Joined: September 26, 2006	There are plenty of classical works with bare-breasted women and naked cherubs. Somehow these are not considered pornographic - particularly if they are painted or sculptured by well-known artists.
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Clare	Tuesday, 6. October 2009, 18:25 Post #6
Wacko Schismatic Traditionalist Woman Posts: 3,092 Group: Members Member #70 Joined: March 27, 2007	Mairtin Monday, 5. October 2009, 17:55 Clare Monday, 5. October 2009, 15:04 No, I don't think He would. And I write as someone who has seen it and did chuckle at at least one point! ("You're all individuals!" "Yes, we are!" "I'm not.") You didn't chuckle at the "What did the Romans ever do for use?" bit? I don't remember that bit.
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Clare	Tuesday, 6. October 2009, 18:26 Post #7
Wacko Schismatic Traditionalist Woman Posts: 3,092 Group: Members Member #70 Joined: March 27, 2007	I just wonder how bad things have to get before we start realising enough is enough and wish we had tutted more decades ago.
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John Sweeney	Tuesday, 6. October 2009, 18:47 Post #8
Posts: 1,843 Group: Members Member #68 Joined: March 20, 2007	There was a bit of an outcry when Coronation Street first appeared and complaints about lowering standards with all those common folk talking rough and drinking and worse. In fact, the breakthrough really was in its attempts to put ordinary people's lives on the screen rather than the middle -class types who had dominated beforehand. As such it proved a useful social advance although it was and remains extremely restrained--never aa swearword no matter how high passions run. Z Cars was the same--at least it showed us that not all policemen spoke with an Oxbridge accent nor were they perfect English gentlemen all the time. Looks tame now but caused a minor sensation in its day John



Clare	Tuesday, 6. October 2009, 20:21 Post #9
Wacko Schismatic Traditionalist Woman Posts: 3,092 Group: Members Member #70 Joined: March 27, 2007	John Sweeney Tuesday, 6. October 2009, 18:47 There was a bit of an outcry when Coronation Street first appeared and complaints about lowering standards with all those common folk talking rough and drinking and worse. In fact, the breakthrough really was in its attempts to put ordinary people's lives on the screen rather than the middle -class types who had dominated beforehand. As such it proved a useful social advance although it was and remains extremely restrained--never aa swearword no matter how high passions run. Soap operas are diabolical. It's not to do with class. It's the immoral behaviour that they have helped to normalise. They manipulate and desensitise the viewer into accepting immoral lifestyles. They are a corrupting influence on society. They never reflect society, and they have no desire to do so. They influence society, and in a very negative way. They are sick. Just remember when you're watching people yelling at each other on Eastenders or Coronation Street, that your Guardian Angel is beside you. What do you think he thinks? Do you think he thinks that that is a good and worthwhile way to spend your evenings? Sorry, but I have a real axe to grind about soap operas. And yes, I used to watch loads!
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Deacon Robert	Tuesday, 6. October 2009, 20:33 Post #10
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John Sweeney	Tuesday, 6. October 2009, 21:43 Post #11
Posts: 1,843 Group: Members Member #68 Joined: March 20, 2007	If I really thought there was a Guardian Angel sitting there Clare I'd take him down the pub instead. The soap operas I see are all pretty innocuous and bland. In my view should either be beefed up into genuine representations of ordinary life or taken off altogether. Boring is the word rather than diabolical. John



Rose of York	Tuesday, 6. October 2009, 22:49 Post #12
Administrator Posts: 14,540 Group: Admin Member #2 Joined: September 25, 2006	Deacon Robert Tuesday, 6. October 2009, 20:33 What is the difference between a reformed smoker, an reformed alcoholic, and a reformed sinner???? The reformed soap opera viewe has much in common with the reformed alcoholic and reformed soap opera viewer. They thought they needed daily indulgence of their obsession, then one day they realised it was ruling them. The withdrawal process progressed until the addict arrived at the recovery stage, and gradually filled his or her life with more satisfying pursuits.
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sumermamma	Tuesday, 6. October 2009, 22:59 Post #13
Posts: 432 Group: Members Member #71 Joined: March 30, 2007	Clare, You wrote- "I just wonder how bad things have to get before we start realising enough is enough and wish we had tutted more decades ago." I thrink it is too late now. The talent and creative spark and energy has been absorbed by selling out to the purveyors of sin and sex. And, we all know true creative genius no longer exists in modern day offerings. They rely on remakes.



Richard Hannay.	Wednesday, 7. October 2009, 01:26 Post #14
Posts: 463 Group: Members Member #243 Joined: August 25, 2009	SM there is still creative genius in Radio and Radio 4 has some excellent plays. I dislike soaps and would axe them but John does make a good point about the origins of corrie. The class divide and the national divide had to be bridged. My concern is that the current soaps are reinstating the stereotypes they once helped dispel. Who would have thought "Ken Barlow" a working class lad with a degree from a proper university was once a revolutionary idea?



Clare	Wednesday, 7. October 2009, 08:48 Post #15
Wacko Schismatic Traditionalist Woman Posts: 3,092 Group: Members Member #70 Joined: March 27, 2007	John Sweeney Tuesday, 6. October 2009, 21:43 If I really thought there was a Guardian Angel sitting there Clare I'd take him down the pub instead. That would be more worthwhile, John. Quote: The soap operas I see are all pretty innocuous and bland. In my view should either be beefed up into genuine representations of ordinary life or taken off altogether. Boring is the word rather than diabolical. I think you need to have not watched soaps for some time, and then take a look, to see just how abominable they are. They are sick. They have a particular sound. I can recognise the sound of a soap opera from another room! It is depressing. I'm so glad I'm not hooked on such poisonous drivel anymore.
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