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Would you favour the disestablishment of the Church of England?
Yes	4 (57.1%)
No	1 (14.3%)
Don't Know	0 (0%)
Don't Care	2 (28.6%)
Total Votes: 7

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Topic Started: Friday, 26. September 2008, 15:49 (60 Views)
saundthorp	Friday, 26. September 2008, 15:49 Post #1
Posts: 135 Group: Members Member #90 Joined: June 29, 2007	I have just finished reading an account of the Archbishop of Canterbury's visit to Lourdes and I am almost speechless after reading it. No, it isn't the news that Rowan appears to have given a homily at a Catholic Mass, although that did raise my blood pressure somewhat since I was under the impression only validly ordained priests and deacons could give homilies at Mass. It was the comments made by a certain Monsignor, Quote: Monsignor Andrew Faley,Assistant General Secretary for Ecumenical Affairs and Interfaith Relations at the Catholic Bishops' Conference, said Dr Williams' visit demonstrated the strength of the relationship between the Anglican and Catholic Churches. So does Dr Williams' visit demonstrate the strength between our Churches? Perhaps Monsignor Faley hasn't noticed our Churches are becoming even more separated as never before. The Anglican communion has not only created more areas of division between us but are even separating themselves from orthodox Christianity in general, and is itself disintergrating within, like a booster rocket falling back to earth. Here is the report in full. http://www.indcatholicnews.com/archl435.html[redit][/redit] Edited by saundthorp, Friday, 26. September 2008, 15:53.
	Truth is still the truth even if no one believes it. Error is still error even if everyone believes it. (Archbishop Fulton Sheen)


Frideswide	Friday, 26. September 2008, 15:56 Post #2
Posts: 13 Group: Members Member #202 Joined: July 23, 2008
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Rose of York	Friday, 26. September 2008, 17:58 Post #3
Administrator Posts: 14,513 Group: Admin Member #2 Joined: September 25, 2006	saundthorp Friday, 26. September 2008, 15:49 It was the comments made by a certain Monsignor, Quote: Monsignor Andrew Faley,Assistant General Secretary for Ecumenical Affairs and Interfaith Relations at the Catholic Bishops' Conference, said Dr Williams' visit demonstrated the strength of the relationship between the Anglican and Catholic Churches. http://www.indcatholicnews.com/archl435.html[redit][/redit] The relationship is akin to that of loving parents and a runaway child who refused to acknowledge parental authority, wants his/fer own way, but runs home when it suits them. We can be friendly to individual Anglicans, but we do no have to pretend there is any connection between us and them.
	$Posted Image$ Catholic and proud of it! Talk to God before Mass. Talk to each other afterwards


OsullivanB	Friday, 26. September 2008, 21:46 Post #4
Posts: 2,192 Group: Moderator Member #205 Joined: August 14, 2008	"Rose of York" The relationship is akin to that of loving parents and a runaway child who refused to acknowledge parental authority, wants his/fer own way, but runs home when it suits them. We can be friendly to individual Anglicans, but we do no have to pretend there is any connection between us and them. Phew. For a moment I thought you were thinking of Luke 15:11-32. Edited by OsullivanB, Friday, 26. September 2008, 21:49.



Rose of York	Friday, 26. September 2008, 22:27 Post #5
Administrator Posts: 14,513 Group: Admin Member #2 Joined: September 25, 2006	OsullivanB Friday, 26. September 2008, 21:46 Phew. For a moment I thought you were thinking of Luke 15:11-32. I was. Quote: 31 And he said to him, 'Son, you are always with me, and all that is mine is yours. 32 It was fitting to make merry and be glad, for this your brother was dead, and is alive; he was lost, and is found.'" The members of the Church of England are welcome to come home, as soon as they are ready. The return of one, is cause for killing a fatted calf.
	$Posted Image$ Catholic and proud of it! Talk to God before Mass. Talk to each other afterwards


OsullivanB	Friday, 26. September 2008, 22:54 Post #6
Posts: 2,192 Group: Moderator Member #205 Joined: August 14, 2008	Thank you. It was your second sentence that confused me. The prodigal's father never denied the blood tie. Though I can see that reconciliation followed repentance.



John Sweeney	Tuesday, 30. September 2008, 11:14 Post #7
Posts: 1,833 Group: Members Member #68 Joined: March 20, 2007	There has been a drift away from Catholicism in Austria in recent years mostly attributed by experts to the usual traditional/liberal split and worsened by a couple of major sex scandals. Nevertheless, Austria is predominantly Catholic still and it is very alarming to see that this week's election has seen a major advance in the fortunes of 2 extreme right parties which conceivably could combine to produce a narrow majority and form the next Government. Fortunately this is unlikely because in true extrem right tradition the 2 leaders hate each other. How can people with such unChrisitian views attract so many votes from Catholics? Is it because the Church is less powerful now and unable to prevent this or are we to believe the critics who say that Catholic countries by their very nature have a far right element which bubbles to the surface every so often? Those who believe this can point to Italy as another country where this trend is apparent. John



OsullivanB	Tuesday, 30. September 2008, 11:21 Post #8
Posts: 2,192 Group: Moderator Member #205 Joined: August 14, 2008	Franco in Spain and Salazar in Portugal come to my mind.



william of bow	Tuesday, 30. September 2008, 17:48 Post #9
Posts: 187 Group: Members Member #172 Joined: March 23, 2008	Austria and the right wing: A little thought: it took over ten years of really quite fierce political activity to turn Germans into Nazis; Austria, it is said became Nazi over one night. The time it took for the Nazi columns to reach Vienna from Munich. Then again, they allowed 16 year olds to vote for the first time. William [redit][/redit] Edited by william of bow, Tuesday, 30. September 2008, 17:50.
	William of Bow Quote: Blessed are they who have not seen and yet have believed: a passage which some have considered as a prophecy of modern journalism. [G.K.Chesterton] Check my Blog: http://www.williamonthehill.typepad.co.uk


Thaddeus	Wednesday, 8. October 2008, 02:05 Post #10
Posts: 3 Group: Members Member #198 Joined: June 27, 2008	Where is the Eucharist in the OT and NT? I'm putting together a new website that outlines where things are in the Bible. I would appreciate any comments on the above link... Thanks- Thaddeus



Phil_sfo	Thursday, 9. October 2008, 07:17 Post #11
Posts: 418 Group: Members Member #101 Joined: September 8, 2007	Thaddeus Wednesday, 8. October 2008, 02:05 Where is the Eucharist in the OT and NT? I'm putting together a new website that outlines where things are in the Bible. I would appreciate any comments on the above link... Thanks- Thaddeus I'm not too sure just how much one can read into occasions in the OT where bread and wine figured as a meal. I would have to look into it farther and, in fact, would appreciate the background which you have covered in this respect. Some time ago I put part of a talk I gave on the Eucharist in this forum by way of explanation. If you wish I will send you the complete thing if it would be of any help, as long as you accept that it is the result of my thinking and not necessarily something that's going to have 'nihil obstat' after it.



Thaddeus	Thursday, 9. October 2008, 11:22 Post #12
Posts: 3 Group: Members Member #198 Joined: June 27, 2008	Thanks- No problem. I always enjoy learing more about the bread of life. And it is understood about the nihil obstat, since my writings don't carry one either !



Phil_sfo	Sunday, 12. October 2008, 20:57 Post #13
Posts: 418 Group: Members Member #101 Joined: September 8, 2007	Did you receive what I sent to you by email?



moderator team	Wednesday, 15. October 2008, 16:35 Post #14
Posts: 307 Group: Admin Member #194 Joined: May 23, 2008	To the left of each topic there is a symbol of a book. A closed book means there are new posts you have not read. An open book means there are no new posts you have not read. Since yesterday the books have not been changing to "open". KatyA made some inquiries. Our forum providers are aware,. they are looking into it.
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KatyA	Thursday, 16. October 2008, 13:39 Post #15
Administrator Posts: 5,390 Group: Admin Member #6 Joined: September 26, 2006	Members may have noticed that they are not being directed to the last unread post in various topics. This is part of the problem the providers are investigating and should soon be fixed. Meanwhile our apologies - it is a pain.



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