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| G K Chesterton; Scholars discuss possibiity ofCanonisation Cause | |
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| Topic Started: Saturday, 6. June 2009, 22:26 (516 Views) | |
| Rose of York | Saturday, 6. June 2009, 22:26 Post #1 |
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| PJD | Sunday, 7. June 2009, 09:03 Post #2 |
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I liked these passages: "There is a moment in the life story of many saints in which personal crisis is followed by a moment of vision, a moment in which there is a personal encounter with God which brings about a complete change of direction. There is, I think, such a moment in Chesterton's life." [Oddie] But as particularly significant - this: "There is one secret for life The secret of constant astonishment." [Chesterton himself] PJD |
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| Rose of York | Sunday, 7. June 2009, 12:43 Post #3 |
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GKC Born, London Converted to the Catholic faith, Yorkshire, as a result of his friendship with the parish priest of the Church of the Holy Spirit, Heckmondwike. GKC borrowed a book from Father O'Connor. He returned it with this poem written on the fly leaf of the book.
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| Rose of York | Sunday, 7. June 2009, 12:45 Post #4 |
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| PJD | Sunday, 7. June 2009, 16:55 Post #5 |
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"Hail, Heckmondwike! Successful spot! Saved from the Latin's frothing lot" So was he having a go at the Curia; or the dead language? PJD |
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| Rose of York | Sunday, 7. June 2009, 18:01 Post #6 |
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I cannot work that out. The parish has a church built on the Byzantine-Romanesque style, it looks like a Roman Basicalla complete with copper dome. Mass was, naturally, in Latin in those days, and still is, in addition to vernacular. GKC may have been referring to the Roman invaders who built the city walls at York not many miles away. |
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| Deleted User | Sunday, 7. June 2009, 19:43 Post #7 |
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Arthur Wood was born at Heckmondwicke on 24th January 1875. He composed Barwick Green which BBC Radio 4's The Archers use for its signature tune. As for G K Chesterton I think that he should join the queue behind Graham Green and J R R Tolkien but perhaps ahead of CS Lewis and Hillarie Belloc. G K Chesterton wrote a literary classic about his faith Orthodoxy and also The Everlasting Man, as well as The Catholic Church and Conversion. These are but three of several titles about his exploration of faith. I can recommend these but would happily read others. Graham Green's novel the Power and The Glory is a classic which all priests should read for it contains the best description of the true nature of priesthood in any work of fiction that I have found. Tolkien was a devout Catholic and his Middle earth and the tales of the Lord of the Rings are dripping with Catholic allegories (see J. R. R. Tolkien's Sanctifying Myth: Understanding Middle-Earth by Bradley J Birzer) or if you need help sleeping, Exodus: Old English Text, Translation & Commentary by J.R.R. Tolkien. However it was a golden age for Catholicism. Chesterton, Lewis and Tolkien are probably reunited in their friendship and chuckling to themselves about the prospect that any one of them could become a saint. All of them have a message which today’s generation would do well to hear and so I support the cause for Chesterton, though my own preference would be for Tolkien (Sorry Rose he was in the Lancashire Fusiliers during WW1 so I suppose he won’t be getting your vote) |
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| Rose of York | Sunday, 7. June 2009, 19:54 Post #8 |
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Rose is non sectarian.
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| Rose of York | Sunday, 7. June 2009, 19:56 Post #9 |
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Is this it? It is a complete online book, The Everlasting Man, by G K Chesterton. Very handy for people who cannot easily get to a bookshop. http://www.worldinvisible.com/library/chesterton/everlasting/content.htm |
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| Deleted User | Sunday, 7. June 2009, 23:02 Post #10 |
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Yes, well found |
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| Joe Valente | Sunday, 7. June 2009, 23:11 Post #11 |
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Penfold, Are you saying that CS Lewis was a Catholic ? |
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| Deleted User | Sunday, 7. June 2009, 23:59 Post #12 |
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No, which is why he is lower in the list, sadly, he never came the whole way. He was however a very close friend of Tolkien and he wrote a great deal which would suggest a catholic sentiment. I perhaps overstated his case but he was the one who almost made it into the fold and his writing is worth reading. [Chesterton's The Everlasting Man contributed to C. S. Lewis's conversion to Christianity. In a letter to Sheldon Vanauken (14 December 1950)[23] Lewis calls the book "the best popular apologetic I know", and to Rhonda Bodle he wrote (31 December 1947)[24] "the [very] best popular defence of the full Christian position I know is G. K. Chesterton's The Everlasting Man."] http://anglicancontinuum.blogspot.com/2008/09/following-is-from-write-up-about-book.html |
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| Deleted User | Monday, 8. June 2009, 07:31 Post #13 |
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http://anglicancontinuum.blogspot.com/2008/09/following-is-from-write-up-about-book.html I should explain the above reference to an Anglican site. To understand Lewis you need to understand that many English people consider themselves to be catholic but of the 'Church in England'. John Henry Newman led the trail to disprove the Via Media which many Anglicans still cling to. For Lewis accepting Rome was not without problems, he had issue with Marian devotion and his marriage but all these things could have been reconciled and many hoped that he would come the full distance before he died. Most of his later writing is very catholic and intellectually he was ready but spiritually he wavered and we can only pray for the cleansing power of purgatory, a doctrine he defended. |
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| PJD | Monday, 8. June 2009, 08:02 Post #14 |
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I perhaps overstated his case but he was the one who almost made it into the fold and his writing is worth reading. I don't think you have overstated the merit of Lewis' writings Penfold. I found them spiritually invigorating especially Mere Christianity. PJD |
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| Deleted User | Monday, 8. June 2009, 09:03 Post #15 |
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GRAHAM GREENE I am a fan of Graham Greene and found his novels less taxing than many, which as a dyslexic is a major plus, and so he and Tolkien were my favourite authors as a teenager. His life and the abandonment of his wife would rule him out of serious consideration for sanctity, even though his mental state (He was what is now referred to as Bi--Polar) may have excused much of his behaviour. His writing speaks of a soul that has travelled the hard road. In the Power and the Glory he tells the tale of a priest who by accident finds himself the only priest remaining in a province of Mexico during the time of persecution. As a young priest he was a high-flyer and member of the social elite. He was fond of the high life and had even had affairs with women one of which had resulted in the birth of a child. In many respects he was a sinner and as circumstances changed he became addicted to alcohol. During the course of the novel we see him stripped of his priesthood as one by one his shortcomings are revealed and with the loss of his brievery the last outward vestige of his priesthood is removed. Eventually he makes it to safety and all could be well but he receives a call that takes him back into the lion’s den. I shall let you read the rest if you have not done so but the novel certainly reflects the title and he is ... well read on for yourselves. |
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