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| Topic Started: Friday, 2. January 2009, 13:47 (873 Views) | |
| Emee | Friday, 2. January 2009, 23:55 Post #31 |
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Clare I'm not sure how much of a burden it would be. I once heard a Priest say he had been blessed with the good Grace to forget a person's Confession immediately afterwards. I wonder if God gives all Priests that special blessing? As you say, if not, the burden must be very heavy indeed... |
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| MickCook | Friday, 2. January 2009, 23:56 Post #32 |
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Ah how easy it is to overlook the obvious! The penitant is suppose to make a reparation for sin: the priest can instruct him/her while still in the confessional to take the poisened bottle and pour it down the drain. Sorry about the tangent!
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| Emee | Friday, 2. January 2009, 23:58 Post #33 |
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Mick Problem solved! Sorted. Well done!! |
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| Clare | Friday, 2. January 2009, 23:59 Post #34 |
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I daresay most of us can't tell by looking at communicants we do not personally know whether they are living in sin or not. But this is about the public domain and what people do know. If a couple are openly living together and it is known to plenty within the parish that they are not simply living as brother and sister (and people do talk to each other, and tell people what they do sometimes! It need not be a case of gossip as the fact that the couple are quite open about it!) they should be denied Communion. If I were in some situation where I had to live as brother/sister with someone, I would make sure that my friends knew it, and hopefully if a few newcomers wagged their tongues, they would be corrected. The Church does take scandal seriously. And giving Communion to cohabitees causes scandal. You can't just dismiss it as gossip. It sets an example. It makes it look ok. And others will copy. |
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| Deleted User | Saturday, 3. January 2009, 00:03 Post #35 |
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I was just about to post making that same point Clare. |
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| Clare | Saturday, 3. January 2009, 00:08 Post #36 |
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Here is an extract from my trusty Moral Theology, by Fr Heribert Jone:
Mick's idea is good though! Get the penitent to sort it out! |
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| Karin | Saturday, 3. January 2009, 00:39 Post #37 |
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Oh my...do I see agreement here? I must concur. Get the person sorted out. |
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Karin Hvaljen Isus i Marija. Kraljica Mira, moli za nas. "Praised be Jesus and Mary. Queen of Peace, Pray for Us." | |
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| Deleted User | Saturday, 3. January 2009, 00:50 Post #38 |
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It is time that the Church view on marriage was officially revised. Unofficially, it already has. Most couples now co-habit either as a prelude to marriage or as their permanent preferred choice. Everyone knows this, and at a parish level priests of all wings of the Church acknowledge it and adjust the rules accordingly. Otherwise we would have no Church left. leave parish priests alone unless the crime is heinous--breaking purely Church laws never comes into that category. John |
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| Rose of York | Saturday, 3. January 2009, 01:01 Post #39 |
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What is the point in being a priest of a Church that has strict rules, if one thinks the laity can change the rules to suit themselves? |
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| Deleted User | Saturday, 3. January 2009, 01:21 Post #40 |
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It's not just the laity Rose. The hierarchy and parish priests know the reality and adjust their day to day response to these changes in society despite what central diktats say. In parishes up and down the land every day at Communion, Baptism, Matrimony , Funerals, priests and people are dealing with the real world in practical ways despite hopelessly outdated central rules. Or is there some parish somewhere where the rules are being scrupulously observed? Should be easy to spot from the rows of empty pews. John |
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| CARLO | Saturday, 3. January 2009, 01:28 Post #41 |
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John, What you say has moved me. A Catholic relative of mine is cohabiting and it is her earnest wish to be married as soon as circumstances permit. She has drifted away from the Church but (Thank God) there are signs of a drift back. It would break my heart for her to be refused Communion on one of the rare but I hope increasing occasions she attends Mass. Veritas Truth CARLO Edited by CARLO, Saturday, 3. January 2009, 01:29.
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| Deleted User | Saturday, 3. January 2009, 01:34 Post #42 |
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Carlo We all face this in our families. I hope your relative comes back into full Communion with the Church if I am using the term correctly but I am certain she will not be refused Communion in the meantime nor should she, simply for co-habiting. We are not some fundamental sect and I applaud our priests for engaging with the modern world rather than taking the easy route of relying on out-of date dogma. John |
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| Rose of York | Saturday, 3. January 2009, 01:40 Post #43 |
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A man in my last parish was well known to be dishonest in business. He had cheated quite a few parishioners. Through preparing accounts for quite a few businesses he had defrauded, I was aware of the scale of his dishonesty. The parish priest must have been aware that this man was also a self confessed tax fraudster - in a big way. He used to boast about it. Should the priest have refused Communion to him, or is that only for sexual sins? How about the Catholic licensee whose pub is well known for serving after time, or the known drink driver, and the parish gossip who damages characters? No, its only sexual sin that gets peoples' backs up. |
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| OsullivanB | Saturday, 3. January 2009, 02:24 Post #44 |
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You might like to redraft that last sentence? |
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| Rose of York | Saturday, 3. January 2009, 02:31 Post #45 |
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OSullivanB I am very innocent, I do tend to put my foot in it.
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