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| Orchestral Mass setting for Papal Mass; Pentecost | |
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| Topic Started: Monday, 4. May 2009, 15:51 (332 Views) | |
| Deleted User | Monday, 4. May 2009, 15:51 Post #1 |
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![]() Kölner Dommusik (Cologne Cathedral Music) is reporting that by means of "a generous gesture of the Holy Father, Pope Benedict XVI" the Papal Mass of Pentecost Sunday will honour the 200th anniversary of the death of Franz Joseph Haydn that same day (Sunday, May 31st), by way of the use of a Haydn orchestral Mass setting for that Mass. The music will be performed by the Cologne Cathedral Choir and the Cologne Chamber Orchestra and the latter report that the Mass setting will be Haydn's Missa Solemnis in B-flat major (Harmoniemesse). NLM Fr.Ray commented
I hope that EWTN televise this Mass but there is nothing yet on their website. KatyA |
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| Derekap | Monday, 4. May 2009, 21:54 Post #2 |
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I wonder if critics of guitars during Holy Mass will criticise violins and other instruments by the orchestra. |
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| CARLO | Friday, 8. May 2009, 19:56 Post #3 |
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Don't be silly Derek! This is wonderful news - let us have more music of the highest quality to accompany our liturgy. Confitebor tibi in cithara With the harp I will hymn Thy praise CARLO |
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| OsullivanB | Saturday, 9. May 2009, 02:26 Post #4 |
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Ah yes - "cithara" - the word from which our word "guitar" is derived. Surprised to see you almost catching up with yesterday's avant-garde Carlo. |
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| Derekap | Saturday, 9. May 2009, 20:10 Post #5 |
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Do any enthusiastic supporters of Haydn's Mass being used during The Holy Sacrifice of Mass realise Haydn was not a Catholic? |
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| OsullivanB | Saturday, 9. May 2009, 20:21 Post #6 |
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This is simply untrue. Would it be relevant , if true? Do we throw out Bach (JS) who certainly was not a Catholic? |
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| Derekap | Saturday, 9. May 2009, 20:32 Post #7 |
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I have just read an article on Haydn in a recent Catholic newspaper. He was born of Lutheran parents, played the organ in a Calvanist church as well as other churches (including Catholic) but there was no mention of his conversion and he is buried in Westminster Abbey. I merely mention it because those who prefer traditional liturgy and music sometimes consider that the OF of Holy Mass has a strong Protestant influence. |
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| OsullivanB | Saturday, 9. May 2009, 20:48 Post #8 |
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He was buried in Gumpendorf, Vienna. I think you may be thinking of Handel. Edited by OsullivanB, Saturday, 9. May 2009, 21:34.
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| Derekap | Saturday, 9. May 2009, 22:41 Post #9 |
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Sincere apologies OsB and to everyone else. Old age occasionally causes confusion particularly when we are switching topics very few minutes on this forum. |
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| Rose of York | Saturday, 9. May 2009, 22:43 Post #10 |
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You're as bad at going off topic, as anybody else. Off with yer 'ed! Into the naughty corner! |
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| Rose of York | Saturday, 9. May 2009, 22:49 Post #11 |
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Apparently you don't know what I know. Monsignor CARLO used to play the guitar at Folk Masses. That was in the good old days when he had shoulder length hair. Strange but true. He confessed it on this forum. From here onwards I fabricate. Years later during a bad winter his head was cold, flat caps were a bit pricey so off he went to a car boot sale, where, for a threepenny bit, he picked up a funny hat with a red pom pom, and that was the end of his mis-spent youth. |
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| Poesy | Sunday, 10. May 2009, 09:18 Post #12 |
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My husband and I attended an orchestral Mass at Oxford Oratory last Easter, and was extremely beautiful perfect accompinament to the Mass. Especially the violins, in the high notes sounds like sweet birdsong. Here is an exerpt of the Benedictus, from Beethoven's Missa Solemnis, the sweet, tender high register of the solo violin , especially towards the end is truly sublime. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5cOfF9ZDAM&feature=related Edited by Poesy, Sunday, 10. May 2009, 09:41.
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| K.T.B. | Sunday, 10. May 2009, 11:27 Post #13 |
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Ahh...what gorgeous music, Poesy.
Edited by K.T.B., Sunday, 10. May 2009, 11:28.
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| CARLO | Sunday, 10. May 2009, 23:08 Post #14 |
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Wonderful Poesy! Nice to see the conductor and orchestra properly dressed. The audience are not too badly attired too. Pax CARLO |
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