Pastoral Care Guidelines in event of pandemic

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Pastoral Care Guidelines in event of pandemic
Topic Started: Tuesday, 28. April 2009, 21:09 (142 Views)
SeanJ	Tuesday, 28. April 2009, 21:09 Post #1
Moderator Posts: 766 Group: Moderator Member #208 Joined: September 26, 2008	Have you thought if the flu hits Britain and Ireland, then we should quarantine ourselves in order to avoid catching it. That means no shopping when the shops are busy, no cinema, concerts, or theatre, and NO MASS. Sean Edited by SeanJ, Tuesday, 28. April 2009, 21:09.



Derekap	Tuesday, 28. April 2009, 21:14 Post #2
Posts: 3,357 Group: Members Member #14 Joined: September 26, 2006	SeanJ wrote: "That means no shopping when the shops are busy, no cinema, concerts, or theatre, and NO MASS" We shall all go when the shops are not normally busy and they will be busier than ever. As regards Holy Mass - I suppose one could comment: "O ye of little Faith!" I pray and hope we shall not suffer such dilemmas.
	Derekap


Rose of York	Tuesday, 28. April 2009, 22:05 Post #3
Administrator Posts: 14,099 Group: Admin Member #2 Joined: September 25, 2006	SeanJ Tuesday, 28. April 2009, 21:09 Have you thought if the flu hits Britain and Ireland, then we should quarantine ourselves in order to avoid catching it. That means no shopping when the shops are busy, no cinema, concerts, or theatre, and NO MASS. Sean Sean you are a doctor of medicine. Are the media exagerating, or is there real cause for concern?
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Rose of York	Tuesday, 28. April 2009, 22:07 Post #4
Administrator Posts: 14,099 Group: Admin Member #2 Joined: September 25, 2006	SeanJ Tuesday, 28. April 2009, 21:09 Have you thought if the flu hits Britain and Ireland, then we should quarantine ourselves in order to avoid catching it. That means no shopping when the shops are busy, no cinema, concerts, or theatre, and NO MASS. Sean I am married to someone highly susceptible to infection. If there was an epidemic of any kind it would be my duty to stay away from crowded places where people cannot avoid being close together, so I would view a Mass on EWTN.
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Rose of York	Wednesday, 29. April 2009, 19:21 Post #5
Administrator Posts: 14,099 Group: Admin Member #2 Joined: September 25, 2006	http://lancasterdiocese.org.uk/admin/Uploads/media/35/Influenza.pdf The Diocese of Lancaster has produced a document Sustaining Pastoral Presence Influenza Outbreaks Written with the mandate of Rt Revd Patrick O'Donohue Bishop of Lancaster The document is written by Jim McManus and Reverend Ncik Donnelly. Jim McManus is Joint Director of Public Health, Birmingham CIty Council and Birmingham PCTs and an advisor on public health care issues to the Bishops Conference of England and Wales Reverend Nick Donnelly is a permanent deacon of the Diocese of Lancaster and author of Pastoral Planning for a Flu Pandemic commissioned by Bishop Patrick O'Donohue (2006). It was recommended by the UK Government booklet, Flu Pandemic and Faith Communities (2008) http://lancasterdiocese.org.uk/admin/Uploads/media/35/Influenza.pdf
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Deacon Robert	Wednesday, 29. April 2009, 20:44 Post #6
Posts: 767 Group: Members Member #15 Joined: September 26, 2006	The paper is very well done. I am seeking permission to forward it to the proper people in my Diocese.
	Dcn Robert


Derekap	Wednesday, 29. April 2009, 21:00 Post #7
Posts: 3,357 Group: Members Member #14 Joined: September 26, 2006	Did you read that some Jews in Israeli want their Government to state that it should be called Mexican Flu because Pork is forbidden to Jews (and Muslims)? The Government has so far refused. I would have thought it was well named to them.
	Derekap


OsullivanB	Wednesday, 29. April 2009, 21:08 Post #8
Posts: 1,973 Group: Moderator Member #205 Joined: August 14, 2008	So they're allowed to catch it so long as it's kosher?



Derekap	Wednesday, 29. April 2009, 22:00 Post #9
Posts: 3,357 Group: Members Member #14 Joined: September 26, 2006	I think we may have some interesting experiences in church in the near future. (Digressing. In the Winter of early 1940 I remember a flu epidemic during which many of the children and teachers were absent. Classes had to be amalgamated and we even had a young woman teacher from the equivalent girls' school to our boys' school! Our sixth-formers showed a lively interest. Perhaps because of then censorship this particular epidemic is rarely, if ever, referred to. I can't remember any practical reaction in the Church. It was an extremely severe Winter).
	Derekap


draig	Friday, 1. May 2009, 21:03 Post #10
Posts: 101 Group: Members Member #224 Joined: March 23, 2009	You couldnt think of a 'rasher' move that the Israeli Government could make. If it is declared Kosher then they'll all be catching it, but if they maintain the unclean status of the virus then the whole country will stay healthy.



John Sweeney	Friday, 1. May 2009, 21:54 Post #11
Posts: 1,739 Group: Members Member #68 Joined: March 20, 2007	OSB, just for the record and to save my own face, it is possible to have a pandemic which is not life threatening , merely widespread. John



John Sweeney	Friday, 1. May 2009, 21:57 Post #12
Posts: 1,739 Group: Members Member #68 Joined: March 20, 2007	I think there is a move across nations for this to be renamed so that people do not think that they catch it only from pigs or that they stop eating meat from pigs. John



OsullivanB	Friday, 1. May 2009, 22:00 Post #13
Posts: 1,973 Group: Moderator Member #205 Joined: August 14, 2008	Indeed it is. But I doubt we'd call it a pandemic then (though it be one). Indeed I doubt we'd talk about it at all. We wouldn't get daily updates from the WHO about a worldwide increase in dandruff (to use a very poor analogy, but one which tickled me). Edited by OsullivanB, Friday, 1. May 2009, 22:02.



draig	Friday, 1. May 2009, 23:07 Post #14
Posts: 101 Group: Members Member #224 Joined: March 23, 2009	OSB is correct, you can technically get a pandemic which is not life threatening - pandemic just means many (all) people. For normal medical usage of the term pandemic three conditions have to be met: 1 A new organism subtype (or a new organism) is encountered 2 The new organism infects humans causing serious illness; 3 The new organism spreads easily and sustainably among humans Your question is thus can you have an infection causing serious illness which is not life threatening? I would say yes - if we suddenly encountered a new virus that caused painful ulceration of human eyes and was highly contagious then that wouldn't be life threatening, but it could be called a pandemic.



Bob Crowley	Saturday, 2. May 2009, 06:04 Post #15
Posts: 535 Group: Members Member #127 Joined: December 21, 2007	It all sounds like a bit of a boar to me.



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