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| Topic Started: Thursday, 26. March 2009, 21:12 (213 Views) | |
| CARLO | Thursday, 26. March 2009, 21:12 Post #1 |
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People should know their place! They did pre-V2. Veritas Truth CARLO |
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| John Sweeney | Thursday, 26. March 2009, 22:52 Post #2 |
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True Carlo they did and what a miserable Church it was then John |
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| PJD | Friday, 27. March 2009, 17:10 Post #3 |
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"People should know their place! They did pre-V2." Indeed they did Carlo; it was clearly heaven or hell if you remember (smile) PJD |
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| Rose of York | Friday, 27. March 2009, 17:45 Post #4 |
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They did indeed. That is why sick people had the oppotunity to receive Holy Communion at home, only on the First Friday of every month, pre V2. For some that was their only contact with their parish. Nowadays it is once a week, if requested. Laity go out to them, and those laity clean their own pyxes. I suspect your posting was a CARLO wind-up. |
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| CARLO | Friday, 27. March 2009, 18:32 Post #5 |
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No it wasn't. Veritas Truth CARLO |
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| PJD | Friday, 27. March 2009, 21:25 Post #6 |
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"No it wasn't." Correct. You could always nip around to Westminster for confession - any day. If you lived in London that is. PJD |
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| Rose of York | Friday, 27. March 2009, 22:08 Post #7 |
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It was miserable, at times. A woman could always bite her tongue when asked "Why isn't your husband a Catholic?" Indeed, such persons were occasions of sin. I spent many hours contemplating their strangulation. Husband used to counter with "Would it keep you happy if my wife was a protestant?"
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| OsullivanB | Friday, 27. March 2009, 22:44 Post #8 |
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It was absolutely wonderful. No-one ever disbelieved anything. They couldn't really because they couldn't understand a word of it. It was probably all in Latin, but nobody was even sure of that because in those wonderful pre-microphone/loop days you couldn't actually hear what was said most of the time. That was a great strengthener of faith. You had to believe it because you really had no material to argue about. Wonderful times. All we had was the Penny Catechism. We know now some of that was wrong. But that doesn't matter. We believed every word of it. And great hymns. "Full in the panting heart of Rome.." No. Wait a minute. I never heard a heart pant. Maybe it was the hart panting - like the psalm - as the hart panteth - no that's not it. But never mind. It didn't actually make sense but we sang it loud and believed every misconceived word of it. Just like Faith of Our Fathers. Lustily we sang "How sweet would be their children's fate if they like them could die for Thee". We believed every word of it. We just didn't mean it to apply to us. That was the great thing about the hymns in those days - so clever. Although they were in the vernacular you still couldn't really understand them. So in those days the vernacular was almost as good as Latin. Oh yes. Those were amazing times. The vernacular knew its place then. Edited by OsullivanB, Saturday, 28. March 2009, 00:49.
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| OsullivanB | Friday, 27. March 2009, 22:45 Post #9 |
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Then the penny pinchers came along with an economical council and cheapened everything. |
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| Rose of York | Friday, 27. March 2009, 22:58 Post #10 |
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We was ever so happy. Once a fortnight we were packed off to confession. On the way we had to walk along a road where the trees met in the middle. We had to go past the gateways of two huge mansions. I used to pray that if the bogey man jumped out, grabbed me and murdered me, he would do it when I was on the way home, because after confession I would be in a state of grace. Oh, how hard I used to pray that the bogeyman wouldn't kill me before confession. I thought it would be a bit mean, having to go to hell before I was ten years old. |
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| OsullivanB | Friday, 27. March 2009, 23:05 Post #11 |
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You're right. Those were indeed the days, when there was still a Hell; before it was abolished alonga Sin and organ music. |
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| Rose of York | Friday, 27. March 2009, 23:09 Post #12 |
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We'd better start saying nice things or we'll be in trouble.
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| Rose of York | Friday, 27. March 2009, 23:10 Post #13 |
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We was ever so happy when you could pick out Catholic kids in a crowd. We had so many medals round our necks we rattled. |
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| OsullivanB | Saturday, 28. March 2009, 00:00 Post #14 |
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Before birth control Catholic kids always were a crowd. Edited by OsullivanB, Saturday, 28. March 2009, 00:01.
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| Derekap | Saturday, 28. March 2009, 11:53 Post #15 |
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I don't honestly think in my Catholic life I was happier pre V2 than post V2. There were happy times, there were dull times, there were difficult times. I certainly appreciate Holy Mass being in my language. Also there is more variety of Eucharistic Prayers and Prefaces. Instead of being rarely asked to prayer for some special intention during the notices we often actually do so together during the Bidding Prayers. This also reminds us that we need not feel frustrated we can't help physically but pray for those in need and for those ministering to them. Whilst I think it is a shame we (in my experience) don't often sing the old Catholic favourite hymns I do appreciate some of the new hymns and some of the non-Catholic hymns. 'The Lord is my Shepherd' was very rarely, if ever, sung in Catholic churches but often in non-Catholic churches and probably that is the reason why. Such hymns as 'O Lord my God, how I in awesome wonder' are very expressive indeed and shows how non-Catholics can also feel and express themselves in a very deep and spiritual way which tends to deny Catholic critics that outside the Church there is a lack of deep spirituality or even that it is incorrect. Admittedly it is a shame that provision of Benediction on Sunday Evenings was ousted by Holy Mass though for a time in some churches it preceded or followed Holy Mass. Edited by Derekap, Saturday, 28. March 2009, 12:00.
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