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Help! How do I respond to this?
Topic Started: Sunday, 22. March 2009, 19:25 (298 Views)
Mrs.Pogle	Sunday, 22. March 2009, 19:25 Post #1
Home-maker Posts: 831 Group: Members Member #219 Joined: February 2, 2009	This is strange in the light of the discussion I started about Protestants/Catholics etc. but tonight, a former "friend" from the Pentecostal Church I used to attend years ago (who "dropped" me when I became Catholic) has tonight posted a dvd through my door. On it is an American documentary which says that the Catholic Church is the Church of the Anti-Christ, the Pope is the Anti-Christ and Our Blessed Mother is the "woman riding the beast"... In the privacy of my own home, I'm afraid I just saw red, and my family, although non-Catholic, are shocked and disgusted. So what do I do? I can see I have these choices: Send it back through the post with a note Send it back without a note Phone her and tell her what I think Do nothing and stay silent What would be the right thing to do? I am trying not to feel angry, but I am. I am tying to forgive, but that will take some time, I think I really need some advice! Edited by Mrs.Pogle, Sunday, 22. March 2009, 19:26.
	"Living Life on the Home Front!" My Blog: Life on the Home Front “It is most laudable in a married woman to be devout, but she must never forget that she is a housewife. And sometimes she must leave God at the altar to find Him in her housekeeping.” ~ St. Frances of Rome


Gerard	Sunday, 22. March 2009, 19:37 Post #2
Posts: 3,125 Group: Members Member #12 Joined: September 26, 2006	You have just had a taste of your own medicine. Your friend thinks you are not going to get into heaven and she is trying to save you by evangelising you. I offer two suggestions. 1. Do nothing. 2. Invite your friend for coffee and a chat in a cafe about whther Mary is the woman riding the beast - that should be easy to disprove from scripture. Are you sure they say Mary and not the Catholic Church? Gerry
	"The institutional and charismatic aspects are quasi coessential to the Church's constitution" (Pope John Paul II, 1998).


Mrs.Pogle	Sunday, 22. March 2009, 19:48 Post #3
Home-maker Posts: 831 Group: Members Member #219 Joined: February 2, 2009	Gerry[/quote] Quote: You have just had a taste of your own medicine. Your friend thinks you are not going to get into heaven and she is trying to save you by evangelising you. Well thanks Gerry, that is so not funny or helpful :( I would never, ever take it upon myself to treat anyone in this manner, nor to evangelise Catholicism except in a spirit of love for other people. Just because I thrash out my thoughts on a forum, where we are all Catholic, in a "safe" way whilst trying to decide where I stand, doesn't mean that I am then going to walk into the next protestant church looking for heretics to burn, or shove dvds through people's doors implying such! I'd never undermine anyone else's beliefs or faith full stop in such a way no matter how it may conflict with my own. It probably was the Catholic Church, not Mary. I was so cross whilst watching I got confused. It was blasphemous about Mary, too... Now I feel Edited by Mrs.Pogle, Sunday, 22. March 2009, 19:49.
	"Living Life on the Home Front!" My Blog: Life on the Home Front “It is most laudable in a married woman to be devout, but she must never forget that she is a housewife. And sometimes she must leave God at the altar to find Him in her housekeeping.” ~ St. Frances of Rome


Rose of York	Sunday, 22. March 2009, 19:55 Post #4
Administrator Posts: 14,561 Group: Admin Member #2 Joined: September 25, 2006	If you are going to meet your former friend, to talk this over, it would be wise to take Gerry's advice and meet in a cafe. That will help ensure tempers are kept in control. Be ready for hearing selected Bible verses, quoted out of context. You could contact this person with a message "Are you willing to look at some Catholic booklets, giving the Catholic viewpoint?"
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Gerard	Sunday, 22. March 2009, 19:59 Post #5
Posts: 3,125 Group: Members Member #12 Joined: September 26, 2006	Your friend thinks she is acting in love. You have a chance to show her that at least some of what she believes is wrong. Me, I would take it. I see absolutely no point in being angry. She is mistaken. Misled. And by whom? She is a victim. Either take the opportunity or do nothing. Gerry
	"The institutional and charismatic aspects are quasi coessential to the Church's constitution" (Pope John Paul II, 1998).


Mrs.Pogle	Sunday, 22. March 2009, 20:19 Post #6
Home-maker Posts: 831 Group: Members Member #219 Joined: February 2, 2009	Quote: I see absolutely no point in being angry. No, me neither, but feelings happen whether we think they have a point or not. But I will deal with the anger and aim for forgiveness and love. There are a multitude of reasons I won't go into why meeting this person isn't an option, so I need to decide whether to send the dvd back or just let it go completely.
	"Living Life on the Home Front!" My Blog: Life on the Home Front “It is most laudable in a married woman to be devout, but she must never forget that she is a housewife. And sometimes she must leave God at the altar to find Him in her housekeeping.” ~ St. Frances of Rome


OsullivanB	Sunday, 22. March 2009, 20:49 Post #7
Posts: 2,203 Group: Moderator Member #205 Joined: August 14, 2008	Simple suggestions: 1. Put the DVD in the trash. That way you can be sure no-one else will be exposed to that copy. 2. Pray for your former friend. It may or may not do her good. It definitely will be good for you.



Mrs.Pogle	Sunday, 22. March 2009, 21:01 Post #8
Home-maker Posts: 831 Group: Members Member #219 Joined: February 2, 2009	OsullivanB Sunday, 22. March 2009, 20:49 Simple suggestions: 1. Put the DVD in the trash. That way you can be sure no-one else will be exposed to that copy. 2. Pray for your former friend. It may or may not do her good. It definitely will be good for you. Thank you, OsB
	"Living Life on the Home Front!" My Blog: Life on the Home Front “It is most laudable in a married woman to be devout, but she must never forget that she is a housewife. And sometimes she must leave God at the altar to find Him in her housekeeping.” ~ St. Frances of Rome


KatyA	Sunday, 22. March 2009, 21:46 Post #9
Administrator Posts: 5,421 Group: Admin Member #6 Joined: September 26, 2006	Mrs P, sometimes your posts make me feel ashamed of my own shortcomings. In this case, I wouldn't even be trying not to be angry, rather I would be enjoying indulging in it. OsB has proposed by far the most appropriate solution IMHO and I think you should adopt his suggestions. I'll even say a couple of Hail Mary's for your misguided friend. KatyA



John Sweeney	Sunday, 22. March 2009, 22:03 Post #10
Posts: 1,853 Group: Members Member #68 Joined: March 20, 2007	Yes, I'm with OSB and Katy on this one. Chuck it out. No pint in meeting or speaking to her, these people are crackpots. John



Rose of York	Sunday, 22. March 2009, 22:38 Post #11
Administrator Posts: 14,561 Group: Admin Member #2 Joined: September 25, 2006	OsullivanB Sunday, 22. March 2009, 20:49 Simple suggestions: 1. Put the DVD in the trash. That way you can be sure no-one else will be exposed to that copy. That would be wasteful. We must protect the earth's resources, they are gifts from God. If you or someone you know have a problem with cats entering your garden scratch the DVD very seriously to make it unwatchable, then hang it up over cats' entrance route.
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Rose of York	Sunday, 22. March 2009, 22:39 Post #12
Administrator Posts: 14,561 Group: Admin Member #2 Joined: September 25, 2006	John Sweeney Sunday, 22. March 2009, 22:03 Yes, I'm with OSB and Katy on this one. Chuck it out. No pint in meeting or speaking to her, these people are crackpots. John John is right. There is no point in reasoning with fanatics
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Mrs.Pogle	Sunday, 22. March 2009, 22:47 Post #13
Home-maker Posts: 831 Group: Members Member #219 Joined: February 2, 2009	Rose of York Sunday, 22. March 2009, 22:38 That would be wasteful. We must protect the earth's resources, they are gifts from God. If you or someone you know have a problem with cats entering your garden scratch the DVD very seriously to make it unwatchable, then hang it up over cats' entrance route. As an ardent recycler, make-do-and-mender, charity shop spender and shunner of electrical/modern kitchen appliances, I am certain I am already doing my bit as far as the earth's resurces go...I even recycle and re-use tinfoil, cling-film, wrapping paper and ribbons off flower bouquets, etc! I have no qualms about chucking it out with the rest of the rubbish (but in the recycling bin, or the ordinary waste??) Anyway, it might scare my cat away! Edited by Mrs.Pogle, Sunday, 22. March 2009, 22:48.
	"Living Life on the Home Front!" My Blog: Life on the Home Front “It is most laudable in a married woman to be devout, but she must never forget that she is a housewife. And sometimes she must leave God at the altar to find Him in her housekeeping.” ~ St. Frances of Rome


Mrs.Pogle	Monday, 23. March 2009, 09:28 Post #14
Home-maker Posts: 831 Group: Members Member #219 Joined: February 2, 2009	I have made a decision after thinking about this overnight. I spoke to our E&D legal person at work this morning about whether or not it was appropriate to report this incident to the police, and she said it was, as it comes under religious hate crime. So I have reported it this morning, to a very helpful policewoman, and an officer from the relevant department is contacting me on Wednesday. I don't have any wish for this person to be prosecuted as such, but perhaps to receive a caution and for someone to tell them that it is unacceptable to do this! I fully understand the need to forgive this person, but I also feel it is appropraite to take steps to right a wrong. This may sound an extreme reaction, but I assure you, I am very calm and unruffled this morning. Religious hate crime laws exist, and they exist for Catholics, aswell as Muslims and everyone else! After living through over 200 years of religious persecution it is for Catholics good to be able to claim protection from such stuff... On another note, I did pray for this person last night...and lit a candle for her in front of my statue of the Virgin Mary and asked Mary t pray for her also on my behalf. I'm sure Mary's prayers will be far more effective than mine!
	"Living Life on the Home Front!" My Blog: Life on the Home Front “It is most laudable in a married woman to be devout, but she must never forget that she is a housewife. And sometimes she must leave God at the altar to find Him in her housekeeping.” ~ St. Frances of Rome


Rose of York	Monday, 23. March 2009, 10:52 Post #15
Administrator Posts: 14,561 Group: Admin Member #2 Joined: September 25, 2006	Well done, Mrs Pogle. This will most likely get back to the community to which this person belongs, and they will all be aware that this kind of behaviour is unacceptable.
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