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The Liturgical Moanararium
Topic Started: Thursday, 19. March 2009, 14:47 (687 Views)
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Rose of York
Thursday, 18. June 2009, 00:58

Does anybody know what God considers to be in the best taste?
No but I have travelled to many parts of the world and even up and down the Roman roads of Britain and all I can say is that the creator of all the land I travelled through has eclectic taste.
The near Lunar landscape of Cappadocia; the pomegranate groves in the Jordan; the Yorkshire moors; the Fermanagh lakes; the Appalachian Mts; the beaches on the Falkland Isles; the mountains of Afghanistan and the deserts of Arabia all in their own way beautiful and yet all very different. I don’t think a few different styles of architecture will cause any concern to one who created such natural diversity.
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Thursday, 18. June 2009, 00:58
One person may find folk music uplifting and an aid to prayer, another prefers Gregorian chant, another would choose Victorian hymns.
And, of course, some (most?) of us can appreciate them all.
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Thursday, 18. June 2009, 05:58
Rose of York
Thursday, 18. June 2009, 00:58

Does anybody know what God considers to be in the best taste?
No but I have travelled to many parts of the world and even up and down the Roman roads of Britain and all I can say is that the creator of all the land I travelled through has eclectic taste.
Which also reflects your own eclectic taste. :smart:

That, in my opinion, is the essence of sprituality, not depending on a particular form of words or a particular type of building or a particular location but being able to sense God's hand in everything around us.

I have attended Mass on a campsite with a makeshift table for an altar and bunch of tired but grubby scouts whose hands were not exactly the cleanest for receiving the Eucharist and I have attended Mass in the grandeur of St. Peter's Basilica; both of them were spiritually uplifting for me.
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Rose of York
Monday, 15. June 2009, 18:17
Derekap
Monday, 15. June 2009, 17:05
Carlo, I seem to remember you assuring us, two years ago, that from 14th September 2007 there would be thousands of Catholics flocking to attend The Tridentine Holy Mass. Apart from a few special occasions in Westminser Cathedral I have yet to hear of your forecasted popularity.
Some churches had Latin Mass for a while, then cancelled due to lack of support.
Why do you think the New Rite's "competition" had to be suppressed? (And in practice, it undeniably was!)

The Traditional Rite has been at a disadvantage for some time. People aren't going to start flocking to it overnight. It hasn't suddenly lost its taboo status.

People only flocked to the New Rite because any choice was taken away.
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I think there are a number of points to make about celebration of Mass in the Extraordinary Form. There are not that many people who are familiar with it, and it does need some explanation. The CTS have published some material, but there is more work to be done there, especially at parish level. There are still not that many priests who are able to celebrate in the Extraordinary Form, although more are being trained up. Where it is celebrated, it is often not at convenient times, and of course there is not the same degree of choice as for Masses in the Ordinary Form. In places, even now, celebration in the Extraordinary Form is not being encouraged.

My own experience in attending weekday Masses in the EF, is that although attendance is not large, a not insignificant proportion of those who attend daily Mass attend.

I think the pattern will be incremental growth, rather than dramatic increase. But there are some encouraging signs, especially the interest among the young. I think the assessment "it has been tried, but there is little interest" is wide of the mark.

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Derekap

QV wrote:

"My own experience in attending weekday Masses in the EF, is that although attendance is not large, a not insignificant proportion of those who attend daily Mass attend."

I would guess that a not insignificant proportion who attend daily Holy Mass will be retired people some of whom will be familiar with the EF Holy Mass. At least when I was able to go on weekdays it was so.
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Quicunque vult

Derekap

Fair point, but those attending the EF daily Mass are actually on the whole younger.

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Derekap

You are very fortunate in being able to attend an EF Holy Mass daily. The timing and location must be convenient for younger people who are usually studying, working or unemployed.
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Monday, 15. June 2009, 17:05
Carlo, I seem to remember you assuring us, two years ago, that from 14th September 2007 there would be thousands of Catholics flocking to attend The Tridentine Holy Mass. Apart from a few special occasions in Westminser Cathedral I have yet to hear of your forecasted popularity.
I am confident I never wrote that Derek.

Chapter and verse please?

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Thursday, 18. June 2009, 19:25
Derekap
Monday, 15. June 2009, 17:05
Carlo, I seem to remember you assuring us, two years ago, that from 14th September 2007 there would be thousands of Catholics flocking to attend The Tridentine Holy Mass. Apart from a few special occasions in Westminser Cathedral I have yet to hear of your forecasted popularity.
I am confident I never wrote that Derek.

Chapter and verse please?

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CARLO
I clicked on CARLO'S profile and checked all his posts for July to September 2007. and did not find it.
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Derekap

Yes, I am indeed. I don't manage it every day, depending on work patterns, but about two or three times a week. Sometimes I attend an OF Mass instead.

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Thursday, 18. June 2009, 19:25
Derekap
Monday, 15. June 2009, 17:05
Carlo, I seem to remember you assuring us, two years ago, that from 14th September 2007 there would be thousands of Catholics flocking to attend The Tridentine Holy Mass. Apart from a few special occasions in Westminser Cathedral I have yet to hear of your forecasted popularity.
I am confident I never wrote that Derek.

Chapter and verse please?

Pax

CARLO
Carlo I have tried to go through your contributions to see where I have gone wrong but without success. Perhaps I am not entitled to. I was not intending to quote you precisely. When I look back, in general, I feel many enthusiasts of the EF Rite were sure that 14 September 2007 would see a 'reawakening' of The Church and many of what they consider problems caused by the introduction of the OF Rite would thereby be solved. If I have unfairly included you in this last opinion I do apologise and ask your forgiveness.
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Derek wrote: Carlo I have tried to go through your contributions to see where I have gone wrong but without success. Perhaps I am not entitled to. I was not intending to quote you precisely. When I look back, in general, I feel many enthusiasts of the EF Rite were sure that 14 September 2007 would see a 'reawakening' of The Church and many of what they consider problems caused by the introduction of the OF Rite would thereby be solved. If I have unfairly included you in this last opinion I do apologise and ask your forgiveness.



Tut I forgive you - imprecision is but a venial sin!

Ego te absolvo!

15 Aves and 20 Paters for the restoration of the Tridentine Rite!

Now a good Act of Contrition please.......................

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Thursday, 18. June 2009, 20:27
I clicked on CARLO'S profile and checked all his posts for July to September 2007. and did not find it.
:thanks:

You are a treasure Rose!

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Thursday, 18. June 2009, 15:23
You are very fortunate in being able to attend an EF Holy Mass daily. The timing and location must be convenient for younger people who are usually studying, working or unemployed.
I do not see the logic in that, Derek. Young people who are working tend to be occupied at work during the day or evening. Students have daytime lectures on weekdays. Workers and students enjoy their social life, sport and outdoor activities, evenings and weekends. Most unemployed are free any day. The people most likely to be free most times are those who have retired.

If Latin Masses appeal more to the young people than to the older ones, there must be a reason. I would put it down to younger people liking what is new, and to them, Latin Mass is something new.

Young people tend to be fired with enthusiasm. I think whatever the time of Mass in the Extraordinary Form, those who are keen to attend will make the effort.
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