| We hope you enjoy your visit! You're currently viewing Catholic CyberForum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you join our online cyberparish, you'll be able to access member-only sections, and use many member-only features such as customizing your profile, sending personal messages, and voting in polls. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free. Join our community! Messages posted to this board must be polite and free of abuse, personal attacks, blasphemy, racism, threats, harasment, and crude or sexually-explicit language. If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features: |
| The Liturgical Moanararium | |
|---|---|
| Topic Started: Thursday, 19. March 2009, 14:47 (676 Views) | |
| CARLO | Sunday, 14. June 2009, 16:23 Post #16 |
|
Yes it will. Just like it accepted the post V2 liturgical changes and ever other liturgical fad since. The Catholic 'majority' are not a very rebellious lot!  Veritas Truth CARLO Edited by CARLO, Sunday, 14. June 2009, 16:23.
|
| Judica me Deus | |
 |
 
|
| Quicunque vult | Sunday, 14. June 2009, 20:22 Post #17 |
|
Carlo I agree that the majority will not be a problem. It's the minority I worry about. Those intent on retaining supermarket language, supermarket architecture, supermarket music and supermarket vestments for the worship of Almighty God. They will not be happy with the restoration of more faithful liturgical language. Unfortunately their influence in the post-Conciliar Church has been out of all proportion to their numbers. QV |
|
|
|
| Mairtin | Sunday, 14. June 2009, 21:12 Post #18 |
|
Where did the pressure come from for this translation? |
|
Online Prayer - Night Prayer, Rosary and Lectio Divina Visit www.roomtopray.net for details of days and times | |
|
|
|
| Deleted User | Sunday, 14. June 2009, 22:12 Post #19 |
|
Deleted User
|
The Missal in use in the UK and the rest of the English speaking world is only a temporary one and should have been replaced over 20 years ago with the permanent translation. The problems with its introduction have been legion and far too numerous to list here but in essence there have been several stumbling blocks. The main problem has been that originally there was to have been an English translation used in the UK the commonwealth and former British colonies, with a separate English translation for the USA and its sphere of influence, as is the case at present. Rome however has decided that there should only be one English translation and since America and England do not actually speak the same language getting an agreed translation is proving difficult. The other difficulty was the insistence on inclusive language which thankfully was not taken to the extreme; we shall still be saying 'Our Father' I am not sure what is happening on the Gaelic front. |
|
|
|
| CARLO | Sunday, 14. June 2009, 22:50 Post #20 |
|
No they will not be happy and they have not been happy since the present Holy Father began his careful and measured return to traditional liturgy. But then, they have had their day and although their influence during most of the last 40 years has indeed been "out of proportion" it is unlikely to be so in the future. Pax tecum Peace be with thee CARLO |
| Judica me Deus | |
|
|
|
| CARLO | Sunday, 14. June 2009, 22:51 Post #21 |
|
From heaven! Oremus CARLO |
| Judica me Deus | |
|
|
|
| Derekap | Monday, 15. June 2009, 16:56 Post #22 |
|
QV wrote: 'I agree that the majority will not be a problem. It's the minority I worry about. Those intent on retaining supermarket language, supermarket architecture, supermarket music and supermarket vestments for the worship of Almighty God. They will not be happy with the restoration of more faithful liturgical language' "Good Morning Sisters and Brothers, all rostered EMsHC to the Sanctuary please" "Congregation announcement. May we draw your attention to the Retiring Collection - it is for the new Missals we need for the new translation" I have yet to see any churches built in the last few years. At least some new supermarkets are open from 08.00 to 22.00 if not 24 hours. I have yet to hear of supermarkets selling vestments. I must suggest it to George - maybe they'll offer Bogofs!!! (Lest anyone thinks I am using bad lnguage: Buy One Get One Free) |
| Derekap | |
|
|
|
| Derekap | Monday, 15. June 2009, 17:05 Post #23 |
|
Carlo, I seem to remember you assuring us, two years ago, that from 14th September 2007 there would be thousands of Catholics flocking to attend The Tridentine Holy Mass. Apart from a few special occasions in Westminser Cathedral I have yet to hear of your forecasted popularity. |
| Derekap | |
|
|
|
| Rose of York | Monday, 15. June 2009, 18:17 Post #24 |
Administrator
|
Some churches had Latin Mass for a while, then cancelled due to lack of support. |
  Catholic and proud of it! Talk to God before Mass. Talk to each other afterwards | |
|
|
|
| Deleted User | Monday, 15. June 2009, 18:19 Post #25 |
|
Deleted User
|
I thought that was the reformation... 
|
|
|
|
| Rose of York | Monday, 15. June 2009, 18:20 Post #26 |
|
Administrator
|
Our church is a simple, basic structure. The vestments, always well laundered and pressed, are what we can afford. We worship GOD, not the building and objects. |
|
Catholic and proud of it! Talk to God before Mass. Talk to each other afterwards | |
|
|
|
| Rose of York | Monday, 15. June 2009, 18:24 Post #27 |
|
Administrator
|
Present for Derek: Pre Vatican 2 stirrer 
|
|
Catholic and proud of it! Talk to God before Mass. Talk to each other afterwards | |
|
|
|
| Derekap | Monday, 15. June 2009, 21:06 Post #28 |
|
Thank you Rose for reminding me humbly of the titles I have earned - mainly elsewhere. |
| Derekap | |
|
|
|
| Quicunque vult | Wednesday, 17. June 2009, 21:36 Post #29 |
|
Rose wrote:
We do not worship them, but they are sacred symbols. Our faith is Incarnational, and we rejoice in physicality. QV |
|
|
|
| Rose of York | Thursday, 18. June 2009, 00:58 Post #30 |
|
Administrator
|
QV no need for the teaching, thanks, but I do sometimes wonder how some would react to our humble little church. In my opinion, SOME people do make false Gods of the buildings and objects. You won't find a person who makes a false God of a car, their career, a person or anything else admitting they have a false God. What appeals to one person, who will think this church, this music, these vestments, this music and this building are beautiful and fit for the glory of God may appear to another person, to be hideous. One person may find folk music uplifting and an aid to prayer, another prefers Gregorian chant, another would choose Victorian hymns. Who is to say which is of the finest quality? One famous Anglican Church is considered by many to be beautiful, I find it ugly and ostentatious. It is the Anglican church at Walsingham. I just don't see why people complain about all uncluttered buildings, simply styles vestments, modern music, modern architecture. It is a matter of taste, and it is not possible to please all of the people all of the time. Does anybody know what God considers to be in the best taste? |
|
Catholic and proud of it! Talk to God before Mass. Talk to each other afterwards | |
|
|
|
| 1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous) | |
| Go to Next Page | |
| « Previous Topic · The Mass , Liturgy, Sacraments, Priesthood · Next Topic » | |
4:02 PM Nov 23