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Another Vatican Controversy; Archbisop of Linz
Topic Started: Wednesday, 4. February 2009, 00:10 (535 Views)
Rose of York
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Quicunque vult
Saturday, 14. February 2009, 00:20
Let's not get too carried away by reports from inaccurate and malevolent journalists. "Two appointments"??!! (I also heard a reference to an "appointment" on the BBC recently.) Bishop Williamson has not been appointed to anything, nor does it appear at present that he is ever likely to be so appointed in the absence of a pretty clear repudiation of what he has said.
Not all the journalists were malevolent. They did not understand the situation. The initial announcement of lifting of excommunications was not qualified with a statement that they were not restored to the status of priests in active ministry, let alone as bishops with papally approved episcopal positions.
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QV

Accepting your point about Williamson not being appointed to anything , what is your view of the promotion of this Austrian cleric?

John
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John

I am not in a position to judge, nor would it be appropriate for me to do so. I have neither the competence nor the information that is available to those responsible for recommending this appointment. I am certainly not going to express an opinion based on newspaper reports of some perhaps infelicitous remarks. Trouble is we never hear the good things about people, only when they put their foot in it, if indeed this has happened.

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Well , that is a purist point of view QV but the same goes for every decision made by, say the UK Government and it would be a sad and dangerous world if we did not question their decisions at every twist and turn. it is up to the people who make these decisions to reveal the basis for their decision if they feel criticism is misplaced.

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Linz –This Sunday evening, in connection with the controversial appointment of the vicar of Windischgarsten in Upper Austria, Maria Gerhard Wagner, as the Auxilliary Bishop of Linz, there has been an unexpected twist. Wagner has made a step backwards and requested the Holy See that his nomination should be withdrawn

Wagner has asked the Diocesan Bishop Ludwig Schwarz to send to the media a short statement. It reads: "Given the fierce criticism, I have been in prayer, and after consultation with the diocesan bishop came to the conclusion to ask the Holy Father in Rome to withdraw my nomination as Bishop of Linz."


Power of the press?

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KatyA
Sunday, 15. February 2009, 23:42
Power of the press?

Power of prayer? He did say he prayed about it.
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Power of the Vatican realising it had made another blunder?

John
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Sounds like mob rule to me!

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There are several informative links in this posting on Cathcon which ends:
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Crisis meeting of Austrian Bishops already had been scheduled for 10.00 am tomorrow.

The Bishops and laity of Austria cannot demand that the SSPX submit immediately to Vatican II which is a Council, while themselves remaining in open revolt against decisions of the Pope, who is the Vicar of Christ.
According to the late evening news in Austria, Bishop Schwarz is "relieved".
I don't normally publish emails for protest but given the gravity of the implications for the whole Catholic Church, I am sure that Cathcon readers will want to email the Bishop. They understand English in Linz but not the obligation of all Catholics to the office, person, work and decisions of the Pope.

Bischof Ludwig Schwarz
Herrenstraße 19
A-4020 Linz

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bischoefl.sekretariat@dioezese-linz.at
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Gerard

Seems to be saying the bishops of Austria opposed the appointment.

Thats not mob rule. The pope is expected to work in collaboration with the bishops. First among equals etc etc.
"The institutional and charismatic aspects are quasi coessential to the Church's constitution" (Pope John Paul II, 1998).
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Is it not safe to assume the Austrian bishops and laity know who is best for Austria. No bishop can do a good job if he is resented by his flock.
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Gerard

Rose,
I dont understand your post.
Is there two quite separate ideas in there?

But if the Austrian Bishops dont know who is best for Austria then no one does - especially not a pope isolated in his court in Italy.

Gerry
"The institutional and charismatic aspects are quasi coessential to the Church's constitution" (Pope John Paul II, 1998).
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Gerry I understand the bishops and laity of Austria do not want this man to be one of their bishops.
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Gerard

Sorry Rose, I missed the negative in your first sentence "Is it not"

We agree.

Gerry
"The institutional and charismatic aspects are quasi coessential to the Church's constitution" (Pope John Paul II, 1998).
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Gerard
Monday, 16. February 2009, 17:06
But if the Austrian Bishops dont know who is best for Austria then no one does - especially not a pope isolated in his court in Italy.
Quite often what people want is not what is best for them.
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