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| Another Vatican Controversy; Archbisop of Linz | |
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| Topic Started: Wednesday, 4. February 2009, 00:10 (529 Views) | |
| Deleted User | Wednesday, 4. February 2009, 00:10 Post #1 |
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Hot on th eheels of the reinstatement of the anti-semitic bishop, controversy has broken out in Austria as the Pope has promoted to auxiliary bishop of Linz a man who has said among other things that Hurricane Katrina was God's judgement on New Orleans. Has the Vatican been infiltrated by secularist agents intent on discrediting the Church through this type of thing? John |
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| OsullivanB | Wednesday, 4. February 2009, 00:13 Post #2 |
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He was probably thinking of the music. |
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| Deleted User | Wednesday, 4. February 2009, 00:16 Post #3 |
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Yes good point again OSB and maybe he has a point after all John |
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| tomais | Wednesday, 4. February 2009, 21:07 Post #4 |
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Yes in the Vat it's honkey tonk V Mozart ! OOOPs sorry-Mozart precurser for Masonic Lodge music- not to worry as all of this is of no consequence what so ever. Just keep your eye on who is to reside in London. Could be an anti Lord Mandelson person- just like Bishop Wagner? Ooops,or am I too going to be barred from appearing on the BBC ? |
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| OsullivanB | Wednesday, 4. February 2009, 21:22 Post #5 |
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I have never thought of Wagner as resembling either honky-tonk or Mozart. tomais, I think your chances of appearing on the BBC are exactly as they were before your posting. Whether this is reassuring or depressing, you must, I think, judge for yourself. Edited by OsullivanB, Wednesday, 4. February 2009, 21:23.
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| Rose of York | Wednesday, 4. February 2009, 22:56 Post #6 |
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That remark would have caused me considerable distress if I had suffered as a result of Hurrican Katrina. Surely the people of New Orleans are not all wicked? Does this bishop think Katrina was a re-run of Noah's Ark? We all drop clangers, but this man should stop and think, what he says will be perceived to be official Church policy. |
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| Powerofone | Wednesday, 4. February 2009, 23:53 Post #7 |
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The Holy Father needs to move away from the small armaments. They have an annoying habit of going off in his foot. |
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| tomais | Friday, 6. February 2009, 00:20 Post #8 |
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Yes you are semi right OSB- but-( always the but)- there is always the escape route- like BBC Scotland!!!! The narow minded, parochial ego-sighted view is- I am in Edinburgh ! Did you ever come across that American vangelist=Robertson and his view on Scotland? Mind you as I tangentialy shoot off- I have been in conflict with Ceserani and his 2004 book on Eichmann,where the Gypsies do not even feature in the index! There we are into the shoayh and the " jewish" tunnel vision view of thier history! Anyway in calling a spade a spade that would even in private have me barred from the londoncentric bbc green book given this pathetic weeks events. Regards Tom |
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| OsullivanB | Friday, 6. February 2009, 00:51 Post #9 |
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I knew of him but hadn't seen what he said about Scotland until your post prompted me to Google him. It seems likely that he profoundly misunderstood the significance of the kilt. |
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| MickCook | Friday, 6. February 2009, 23:32 Post #10 |
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Spot on Rose, there were a lot of good and decent people who lost a lot, yet were there to help their neighbours who lost everything. Tomais comments about Robertson and Scotland show just how something can be misunderstood - the bishop was probably thinking about the Carnaval for which New Orleans is famous, but this is a parade with lots of string beads, music and floats. So why hasn't God smacked Rio (also famous for its Carnaval - a little more saucey than Oldham's) with a Katrina? With respect for the bishop, he should know better - God doesn't work that way. |
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| Rose of York | Friday, 13. February 2009, 18:42 Post #11 |
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Now the Church in Austria is in turmoill Link
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| Rose of York | Friday, 13. February 2009, 18:45 Post #12 |
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It appears that in practically every country, the Catholic Church is in turmoil. Much of that is due to the autocratic manner in which decisions are made. I for one am sick to death of the attitude the those with the power ARE the Church, and they tend to make decisions without a thought for the reaction of the laity who attend Mass. The chances are that most of those who are classed as having left the Church have not left, they are staying away, dejected and bewildered, but still hold to their beliefs. |
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| OsullivanB | Friday, 13. February 2009, 20:01 Post #13 |
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I think you are absolutely right Rose. |
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| Rose of York | Friday, 13. February 2009, 22:59 Post #14 |
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Those who carry on in an autocratic manner must know people are unhappy, and that it is contributing to the departure of many, so why would they continue with their idiotic behaviour? Its not as though we are trying to dictate on matters of faith and morals. |
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| Quicunque vult | Saturday, 14. February 2009, 00:20 Post #15 |
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Let's not get too carried away by reports from inaccurate and malevolent journalists. "Two appointments"??!! (I also heard a reference to an "appointment" on the BBC recently.) Bishop Williamson has not been appointed to anything, nor does it appear at present that he is ever likely to be so appointed in the absence of a pretty clear repudiation of what he has said. Excommunication is a very severe penalty, not applied even in cases of murder. The withdrawal of excommunication merely means that Bishop Williamson is no longer deprived of the Sacraments of the Church. To be able to receive Communion, we must be in a state of grace. If we hold bizarre views about historical events, and these are motivated by hate, our souls would be in great danger if we presented ourselves for Communion, without having first confessed and received absolution through the Sacrament of Penance. QV |
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