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The Bible - Questions, Answers, Chat; Bible discussions
Topic Started: Sunday, 25. February 2007, 16:37 (605 Views)
PJD	Sunday, 25. February 2007, 16:37 Post #1
Posts: 2,423 Group: Members Member #11 Joined: September 26, 2006	During the vigil Mass on Saturday, one of the mildest mannered and erudite priests I know gave one of the most quietly-put but devastating homilies on the Gospel reading from Saint Luke 4. He started by referring to the cult of Satanic worshippers, and directly proceeded to relate this to current British secular/political thinking. I have never heard such a homily put by such a man as was put yesterday; and felt it could not have been bettered had the great John Henry Newman given it himself. That’s it. Here are the appropriate verses [note the phrase ‘for to me they are delivered’]. Gospel Luke 4:5-7 5 And the devil led him into a high mountain, and shewed him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time; 6 And he said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them. 7 If thou therefore wilt adore before me, all shall be thine. PJD



Rose of York	Monday, 26. February 2007, 11:20 Post #2
Administrator Posts: 14,558 Group: Admin Member #2 Joined: September 25, 2006	PJD Feb 25 2007, 04:37 PM 5 And the devil led him into a high mountain, and shewed him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time; 6 And he said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them. The TV advertisements and programmes show us all the goods in the world. To the multinationals they are delivered, and to whom they will, multinationals will give them. It is commonly believed that the more goods we have, the better we are. The credit card is the route up that particular mountain. The higher we climb the closer we get to the false God.
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James	Monday, 26. February 2007, 11:39 Post #3
James Posts: 1,108 Group: Members Member #54 Joined: January 13, 2007	Indeed PJD. Also in the papers of late there appears to be a great concern about the decline of marriages and the the effects upon the children brought into the world, supported by the state, with minimum parental input. I was on a train last night and there were quite a few of these children about and it is fearful because you don't know what they are going to do next. The language is filthy, aggressive and defiant. They have no tickets and have no intention of paying unless they come up against "another stronger gang" of six or seven big security men. One person alone does not stand a chance. It is violent enviornment and becoming worse. As I say , even the papers are now advocating the return of some form of religious discipline. The ways of the devil can seem attractive but there is a big price to pay, and in particular for these young men and women who are on that path thinking they have found a new freedom in drugs and defiance. Yet they are prIsoners of what they rebel against as they rely entirely for handouts and opportunity to profit from it without making any input. I would like to see them when they are forty years old and the rewards they get for following the path they are on. When Jesus used to speak of the dead and giving life to the dead, surely this was his definitiion of death. It is hell on earth. There is no real innocent joy amongst them.



Deacon Robert	Monday, 26. February 2007, 14:46 Post #4
Posts: 831 Group: Members Member #15 Joined: September 26, 2006	Commentary of the day Saint John Chrysostom (around 345 – 407), Bishop of Antioch, then of Constantinople, Doctor of the Church Strengthened by temptations "Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness, to be tempted of the devil."… For since with a view to our instruction Jesus both did and underwent all things; he endures also to be led up thither, and to wrestle against the devil: in order that each of those who are baptized, if after his baptism he have to endure greater temptations may not be troubled as if the result were unexpected, but may continue to endure all nobly, as though it were happening in the natural course of things. Yea, for therefore you took up arms, not to be idle, but to fight. For this cause neither does God hinder the temptations as they come on, first to teach you that you are become much stronger; next, that you may continue modest neither be exalted even by the greatness of your gifts, the temptations having power to repress you; moreover, in order that that wicked demon, who is for a while doubtful about your desertion of him, by the touchstone of temptations may be well assured that you have utterly forsaken and fallen from him; fourthly, that you may in this way be made stronger, and better tempered than any steel; fifthly, that you may obtain a clear demonstration of the treasures entrusted to you. For the devil would not have assailed you, unless he had seen you brought to greater honor.
	Dcn Robert


PJD	Monday, 26. February 2007, 20:53 Post #5
Posts: 2,423 Group: Members Member #11 Joined: September 26, 2006	Thank you for that Deacon. I have searched. And found very little (none really) commentary on these three particular lines of this text. PJD



Rose of York	Thursday, 1. March 2007, 20:27 Post #6
Administrator Posts: 14,558 Group: Admin Member #2 Joined: September 25, 2006	Quote: moreover, in order that that wicked demon, who is for a while doubtful about your desertion of him, by the touchstone of temptations may be well assured that you have utterly forsaken and fallen from him; fourthly, that you may in this way be made. Can "the demon" ever be sure we have forsaken and fallen from him, during our lifetime on earth?
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PJD	Thursday, 1. March 2007, 21:03 Post #7
Posts: 2,423 Group: Members Member #11 Joined: September 26, 2006	He way well 'feel' assured; but at the end of the day and at each and every moment only God knows the state of any soul. PJD



Em.	Tuesday, 3. April 2007, 20:09 Post #8
Posts: 757 Group: Members Member #69 Joined: March 24, 2007	http://www.tommyswindow.com/english/God_first_to_know.pps The Bible is the eldest science book.
	Divine Mercy http://www.tinyurl.com/29p3vk


Gerard	Tuesday, 3. April 2007, 20:27 Post #9
Posts: 3,118 Group: Members Member #12 Joined: September 26, 2006	No chance Em. The Bible is not a science book. Ask Galileo. Gerry
	"The institutional and charismatic aspects are quasi coessential to the Church's constitution" (Pope John Paul II, 1998).


Derekap	Tuesday, 3. April 2007, 20:52 Post #10
Posts: 3,415 Group: Members Member #14 Joined: September 26, 2006	An interesting presentation.
	Derekap


Clare	Tuesday, 3. April 2007, 21:00 Post #11
Wacko Schismatic Traditionalist Woman Posts: 3,093 Group: Members Member #70 Joined: March 27, 2007	Gerard Apr 3 2007, 09:27 PM No chance Em. The Bible is not a science book. Ask Galileo. Gerry Galileo wasn't an inspired author! He might yet be proved wrong! The Bible may not be a science book, it doesn't have to be. It is inerrant, however, in all its parts. Inspiration is incompatible with error. Clare.
	S.A.G. My attempt at a blog.


Gerard	Wednesday, 4. April 2007, 11:39 Post #12
Posts: 3,118 Group: Members Member #12 Joined: September 26, 2006	Clare Apr 3 2007, 09:00 PM The Bible may not be a science book, it doesn't have to be. Clare. Exactly. That is the Catholic position. It is not a science book. My computer would not let me download the presentation but I went to the home page and noted it was protestant - probably fundamentalist given your comment Em. These poor people miss out on 2,000 years of guidance (mind you, so did the Inquisition) Gerry
	"The institutional and charismatic aspects are quasi coessential to the Church's constitution" (Pope John Paul II, 1998).


Em.	Wednesday, 4. April 2007, 12:03 Post #13
Posts: 757 Group: Members Member #69 Joined: March 24, 2007	Why is the Bible not a science book? It proved many times over that what it says science has prooved it right. I feel that the Bible is more than that. If we keep an open mind.
	Divine Mercy http://www.tinyurl.com/29p3vk


Gerard	Wednesday, 4. April 2007, 14:40 Post #14
Posts: 3,118 Group: Members Member #12 Joined: September 26, 2006	Because God was not intending to teach us science. He intends to teach us about Himself and about salvation. Gerry
	"The institutional and charismatic aspects are quasi coessential to the Church's constitution" (Pope John Paul II, 1998).


Em.	Wednesday, 4. April 2007, 15:02 Post #15
Posts: 757 Group: Members Member #69 Joined: March 24, 2007	God's intentio was to teach us everything that we ever need, that is why the Bible is a book that covers our life till the end of time. He gave it to us on a silver platter, only now we are discovering what He has given us. That is my opinion anyhow.
	Divine Mercy http://www.tinyurl.com/29p3vk


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