A nation once again

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A nation once again; Vatican opts-out of Italian legislation.
Topic Started: Friday, 2. January 2009, 20:22 (95 Views)
Ned	Friday, 2. January 2009, 20:22 Post #1
Posts: 674 Group: Members Member #61 Joined: March 1, 2007	Hi All, I suppose that you've all heard that the Vatican will no longer automatically accept all new Italian legislation. There is a BBC report at - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7807501.stm So for the first time since 1860 the Pope is the Head of a truly independent nation. But I do wonder at the increasing number of independent nation-states. It seems astonishing that so often an internal dispute within a country results in it splitting in two - so that then both new states can sit in the UN and the EC, have their own army, buy and sell on armaments etc.l Yet when I was a young man there were still Protectorates and Protected States, and before that some smaller states had only been Principalities or Duchies. On a humorous level I am reminded of Chesterton's fantasy 'The Napoleon of Notting Hill', but also of that Tom Lehrer song 'We'll all go together when we go'. Why can any little state, that want to, buy fighter-planes? Why even must they style their defence forces as 'armies' rather than 'gendarmeries' or 'frontier-police', and 'navies' rather than 'coastguards'? And why then do larger states subsidise them? Some national leaders will forever keep a country in crisis simply to establish himself as a great patriot or to be inportant (Bismark is the famous example), so that sooner or later wars start by accident. I' sorry but I do have this awful foreboding that the world has gone down this road before.



Paduan	Friday, 2. January 2009, 21:28 Post #2
Posts: 206 Group: Members Member #108 Joined: December 2, 2007	I wonder why the BBC consider the Vatican to be part of the 'Middle East' in respect of the web link?!
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Derekap	Friday, 2. January 2009, 21:54 Post #3
Posts: 3,415 Group: Members Member #14 Joined: September 26, 2006	Do you think Ned, I should withhold Peter's Pence lest the Vatican buys nuclear weapons? I think, however, the Pope was just a little too young to be a pilot in the Luftwaffe.
	Derekap


Patrick	Friday, 2. January 2009, 22:00 Post #4
Administrator Posts: 3,633 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: September 25, 2006	...and there was me thinking Derek had posted the lyrics to a good song when I saw the thread title...



Derekap	Saturday, 3. January 2009, 17:04 Post #5
Posts: 3,415 Group: Members Member #14 Joined: September 26, 2006	?Sorry you were disappointed Patrick. I wonder if the separation of the law means that the Vatican State will now make Latin the 'lingua franke' of the state and all the citizens and workers will have to ask for their pasta or capuccino and a bun in Latin.
	Derekap


Mairtin	Sunday, 4. January 2009, 20:58 Post #6
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SeanJ	Sunday, 4. January 2009, 21:04 Post #7
Moderator Posts: 881 Group: Moderator Member #208 Joined: September 26, 2008	Mairtin, Is that an Italian flag that your little man is waving?



MickCook	Sunday, 4. January 2009, 23:43 Post #8
Posts: 633 Group: Members Member #18 Joined: September 26, 2006	Ned, I don't think that any time soon the Vatican Airforce with Pope Benedict XVI flying a G 91 Jet Fighter will make a surprise attack on the Italian government. The Vatican is already a member of the United Nations, it was independent of Italy since at least WWII and all it has done is say that Italian law can no longer apply in a separate nation - which would make sense. And oh yes, it already has its own currency, stamps and post office (among many other things).
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Derekap	Monday, 5. January 2009, 17:25 Post #9
Posts: 3,415 Group: Members Member #14 Joined: September 26, 2006	I would have thought that the Vatican State is now a member of the Euro Currency area; of course like all such countries they can produce their own (standardised) notes and coinage. They had their own Lire money but it was equal to the Italian Lire. Somewhere in the house is a Vatican Lire coin given to me by a foreign exchange cashier at work.
	Derekap


CARLO	Monday, 5. January 2009, 19:15 Post #10
Posts: 1,691 Group: Members Member #27 Joined: September 28, 2006	Ned Friday, 2. January 2009, 20:22 Hi All, I suppose that you've all heard that the Vatican will no longer automatically accept all new Italian legislation. What makes you think that Italians accept all new Italian legislation? Non fa mi ridere (It.) Don't make me laugh! CARLO Edited by CARLO, Monday, 5. January 2009, 19:15.
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