Latin is set to be returned to the school curricul

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Latin is set to be returned to the school curricul
Topic Started: Friday, 2. January 2009, 15:23 (110 Views)
KatyA	Friday, 2. January 2009, 15:23 Post #1
Administrator Posts: 5,199 Group: Admin Member #6 Joined: September 26, 2006	Telegraph Ministers believe it is an "important subject" and may help school pupils to learn modern languages. Less than 15 per cent of state schools teach Latin and the number of qualified teachers is falling. However, the Department for Education is understood to be considering adding Latin to the new Languages diploma, which will run alongside GCSEs and A-levels from next year. Baroness Morgan, the schools minister, has indicated that the Government wishes to see Latin regain its status as an important language. She said it was "an important subject and valuable for supporting pupils' learning of modern languages". She added that the Language Diploma Development Partnership was "considering the place of Latin". Well-placed sources said that the language was expected to be reinstated as an official curriculum language next year. Baroness Morgan made the comments in response to calls from another Labour peer, Lord Faulkner of Worcester who said it helped students to learn other languages. Telegraph Fr.Ray How can the Church in England and Wales show itself to be prophetic and help? Fr Ray Blake Which reminds me that now the holidays are almost finished,I'd better get on with my Latin homework Learning Latin KatyA



Patrick	Friday, 2. January 2009, 15:36 Post #2
Administrator Posts: 3,567 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: September 25, 2006	Hmm... I learned Classical Latin at school but I'm not too up on the idea for it's return to the curriculum. Yes, it can help with learning other European languages but it's not really necessary. I'd like to see it reintroduced into Catholic schools, though. In answer to Fr Blake: It can't. The majority of the hierarchy at present would probably prefer if Latin was binned, and Summorum Pontificium with it.



CARLO	Friday, 2. January 2009, 16:36 Post #3
Posts: 1,648 Group: Members Member #27 Joined: September 28, 2006	I think the return of Latin as part of a general language diploma is excellent news. It has been 'brewing' for some time. For those languages with a Latin base (i.e. most of the second languages taught in UK schools) it is a very useful aide to learning. Gloria! CARLO Edited by CARLO, Friday, 2. January 2009, 16:36.
	Judica me Deus


Gerard	Friday, 2. January 2009, 16:45 Post #4
Posts: 3,003 Group: Members Member #12 Joined: September 26, 2006	KatyA Friday, 2. January 2009, 15:23 Fr.Ray How can the Church in England and Wales show itself to be prophetic and help? Fr Ray Blake How can we be prophetic - by speaking for God. Take a lesson from the C of E and the Archbishop of Canterbury. Did you see his new year message? Now, that was propecy. Moaning about personal preferences for ancient languages is not ! Gerry
	"The institutional and charismatic aspects are quasi coessential to the Church's constitution" (Pope John Paul II, 1998).


CARLO	Friday, 2. January 2009, 16:48 Post #5
Posts: 1,648 Group: Members Member #27 Joined: September 28, 2006	Gerard Friday, 2. January 2009, 16:45 KatyA Friday, 2. January 2009, 15:23 Fr.Ray How can the Church in England and Wales show itself to be prophetic and help? Fr Ray Blake How can we be prophetic - by speaking for God. Take a lesson from the C of E and the Archbishop of Canterbury. Did you see his new year message? Now, that was propecy. Moaning about personal preferences for ancient languages is not ! Gerry I didn't know Rowan was a prophet. As for the jibe about Latin it's too silly and outdated to respond to in any detail! Libera nos Deliver us CARLO
	Judica me Deus


Gerard	Friday, 2. January 2009, 16:53 Post #6
Posts: 3,003 Group: Members Member #12 Joined: September 26, 2006	Carlo, All baptised Christians are prophets. Sometimes we speak more prophetically than usual. The Archbish's new year message was one such occassion. Gerry
	"The institutional and charismatic aspects are quasi coessential to the Church's constitution" (Pope John Paul II, 1998).


PJD	Friday, 2. January 2009, 17:32 Post #7
Posts: 2,337 Group: Members Member #11 Joined: September 26, 2006	"I learned Classical Latin at school but I'm not too up on the idea for it's return to the curriculum. Yes, it can help with learning other European languages but it's not really necessary. I'd like to see it reintroduced into Catholic schools, though. " Yes, like Patrick I learned Latin at school. However the reason given was that, apart from being useful regarding Catholic matters, it had a logical structure and helped with maths; especially Algebra. As for other languages - you could chose either Latin or French. The French teacher went around with a slipper as a substitute for the cane; however the Latin teacher only used the marking discipline - and ruthlessly at that. I chose Latin. Some dunces chose French. Happy days! PJD



Derekap	Friday, 2. January 2009, 21:02 Post #8
Posts: 3,357 Group: Members Member #14 Joined: September 26, 2006	I was not considered clever enough to earn Latin or German (it was either/or not both) at the 11+ school. However what French I learned taught me to realise that, English excepted, languages had genders and the word orders in sentences were very different. This was a help when I taught myself some other languages (none fluent). I don't think Latin would have helped more from the experience of a few lessons in it. Our Latin Master was a proper Caesar strolling around in his academic gown as if it was a toga. Dare anyone run along the corridor outside his class and sometimes our art class next door was unable not to react when he was ranting and raving. The master disappeared in the store room sometimes after threatening to send us into his classroom
	Derekap


CARLO	Friday, 2. January 2009, 22:08 Post #9
Posts: 1,648 Group: Members Member #27 Joined: September 28, 2006	Derekap Friday, 2. January 2009, 21:02 .............Our Latin Master was a proper Caesar strolling around in his academic gown as if it was a toga. Dare anyone run along the corridor outside his class and sometimes our art class next door was unable not to react when he was ranting and raving. The master disappeared in the store room sometimes after threatening to send us into his classroom A very great teacher! There was no shilly shallying in those days! Cor unum et anima unam With one heart and one soul CARLO Edited by CARLO, Friday, 2. January 2009, 22:09.
	Judica me Deus


John Sweeney	Friday, 2. January 2009, 23:57 Post #10
Posts: 1,739 Group: Members Member #68 Joined: March 20, 2007	Yes I agree that learning Latin is an excellent discipline and a good foundation for the Romance languages. John



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