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Really, Fr Ray; Re St NIcholas
Topic Started: Saturday, 6. December 2008, 14:43 (159 Views)
KatyA	Saturday, 6. December 2008, 14:43 Post #1
Administrator Posts: 5,413 Group: Admin Member #6 Joined: September 26, 2006	Fr.Ray One of legends of St Nicholas is that he confronted Arian bishops at Nicea, tearing at their beards, punching them in the face, for this he was stripped of his episcopal dignity and imprisoned. That night Our Lady appeared to him and restored his stole to him, whilst Christ blessed him. His miracles, his association with the Feast of the Incarnation are strong and simple catechetical statement that God is involved in his people and the life of the world. Mary Magdalen blog How am I to defend my "violence is never right" stance against that?? KatyA Edited by KatyA, Saturday, 6. December 2008, 14:46.



Derekap	Saturday, 6. December 2008, 16:50 Post #2
Posts: 3,415 Group: Members Member #14 Joined: September 26, 2006	Don't worry KatyA - It is only a legend.
	Derekap


Rose of York	Saturday, 6. December 2008, 16:51 Post #3
Administrator Posts: 14,558 Group: Admin Member #2 Joined: September 25, 2006	KatyA Saturday, 6. December 2008, 14:43 How am I to defend my "violence is never right" stance against that?? KatyA Don't worry about it, Katy. Bishops are always right! Wasn't St Nicholas a bishop? Confronting Arian bishops at Nicea, tearing at their beards, punching them in the face, may have seemed, to Nicholas to be covered by the concept of reasonable force.
	$Posted Image$ Catholic and proud of it! Talk to God before Mass. Talk to each other afterwards


OsullivanB	Saturday, 6. December 2008, 17:31 Post #4
Posts: 2,203 Group: Moderator Member #205 Joined: August 14, 2008	SANTA CLAWS. OK!



Powerofone	Saturday, 6. December 2008, 19:12 Post #5
Posts: 765 Group: Members Member #210 Joined: October 2, 2008	Why didn't he plead the temporary insanty clause?



Emee	Saturday, 6. December 2008, 19:52 Post #6
Posts: 1,279 Group: Members Member #20 Joined: September 26, 2006	Way to go St Nick! Sock it to those Arians...!



KatyA	Saturday, 6. December 2008, 20:40 Post #7
Administrator Posts: 5,413 Group: Admin Member #6 Joined: September 26, 2006	At least Fr Ray didn't go quite as far as the Curt Jester who dubbed today Punch a Heretic Day



Rose of York	Saturday, 6. December 2008, 20:47 Post #8
Administrator Posts: 14,558 Group: Admin Member #2 Joined: September 25, 2006	Rose of York Saturday, 6. December 2008, 16:51 KatyA Saturday, 6. December 2008, 14:43 How am I to defend my "violence is never right" stance against that?? KatyA It would be more fun if a young curate got canonised despite confronting heretical bishops, tearing at their beards, punching them in the face.
	$Posted Image$ Catholic and proud of it! Talk to God before Mass. Talk to each other afterwards


Rose of York	Saturday, 6. December 2008, 20:55 Post #9
Administrator Posts: 14,558 Group: Admin Member #2 Joined: September 25, 2006	KatyA Saturday, 6. December 2008, 20:40 At least Fr Ray didn't go quite as far as the Curt Jester who dubbed today Punch a Heretic Day What was wrong with burning them? Is the new method - punching - something to do with the Vatican's commitment to reduce its carbon footprint? What kindling should one use when preparing the fire for heretic burning? The Tablet, The Universe, Playboy or some crummy Diocesan Commision for Patronisation of The Elderly advisory commission booklet?
	$Posted Image$ Catholic and proud of it! Talk to God before Mass. Talk to each other afterwards


SeanJ	Saturday, 6. December 2008, 23:13 Post #10
Moderator Posts: 877 Group: Moderator Member #208 Joined: September 26, 2008	Newsprint burns best. That means either The tablet or The Universe. And, The Universe has more paper.



KatyA	Saturday, 6. December 2008, 23:42 Post #11
Administrator Posts: 5,413 Group: Admin Member #6 Joined: September 26, 2006	OTR What's the most famous punch ever thrown? C'mon, you boxing fans; you must have your opinions. Was it the quick right cross from George Foreman that staggered Smokin' Joe? Or the jab the made Roberto Duran say "No mas?" Or maybe the phantom punch ("I saw that punch; it wouldn't have squashed a grape.") that helped Sonny Liston decide it was time to take his dive in Lewiston? Off The Record The answer, it seems, is "none of the above" It was good old St Nick's punch. I really am on a losing streak here St Nicholas is patron saint of: Patron: against imprisonment; against robberies; against robbers; apothecaries; bakers; barrel makers; boatmen; boot blacks; boys; brewers; brides; captives; children; coopers; dock workers; druggists; fishermen; grooms; judges; lawsuits lost unjustly; longshoremen; maidens; mariners; merchants; murderers; newlyweds; old maids; parish clerks; paupers; pawnbrokers; perfumeries; perfumers; pharmacists; pilgrims; poor people; prisoners; sailors; scholars; schoolchildren; shoe shiners; spinsters; students; thieves; travellers; unmarried girls; watermen; Greek Catholic Church in America; Greek Catholic Union; Bari, Italy; Fossalto, Italy; Duronia, Italy; Portsmouth, England; Greece; Lorraine; Russia; Sicily; I think MMA could be added to that list Edited by KatyA, Saturday, 6. December 2008, 23:57.



Rose of York	Saturday, 6. December 2008, 23:57 Post #12
Administrator Posts: 14,558 Group: Admin Member #2 Joined: September 25, 2006	SeanJ Saturday, 6. December 2008, 23:13 Newsprint burns best. That means either The tablet or The Universe. And, The Universe has more paper. And, The Universe has oilier ink. All we need do now is a heretic.
	$Posted Image$ Catholic and proud of it! Talk to God before Mass. Talk to each other afterwards


OsullivanB	Sunday, 7. December 2008, 00:04 Post #13
Posts: 2,203 Group: Moderator Member #205 Joined: August 14, 2008	Isn't global warming bad enough, without burning The Universe?



MickCook	Saturday, 20. December 2008, 04:04 Post #14
Posts: 633 Group: Members Member #18 Joined: September 26, 2006	I'd like to know where Fr. Ray got his information. The only records of Nicaea are from two historians who happened to attend the council. There is no record of which bishops actually attended - St. Nicholas may have attended, but its not actually known. Miracles are attributed to St. Nicholas both before and after his death.
	:) Mick The Cook Companies


OsullivanB	Saturday, 20. December 2008, 13:22 Post #15
Posts: 2,203 Group: Moderator Member #205 Joined: August 14, 2008	SeanJ Saturday, 6. December 2008, 23:13 Newsprint burns best. That means either The tablet or The Universe. And, The Universe has more paper. I fear that burning the Universe might be a rejection of Creation.



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