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Cherie Blair to speak at Pontifical Uni; St Thomas Angelicum
Topic Started: Thursday, 4. December 2008, 23:31 (655 Views)
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Joanna Bogle posts that Cherie Blair has been invited to speak at a major Pontifical University in Rome and is none too happy about it.
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There is no reason whatever why Mrs Blair should speak at a Pontifical University. The Church can draw on many excellent women speakers with superb credentials to tackle issues concerning women's rights and freedoms - it is absurd to invite instead some one who passionately supports organisations promoting abortion.

The subject of Mrs Blair's speech is to be "Religion as a Force in protecting Women's Human Rights."
Perhaps she has changed her views on abortion.

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Tut tut KatyA! :nono:

Let her speak and let us consider what she has to say.

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Edited by CARLO, Friday, 5. December 2008, 00:03.
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Yes, Monsignor
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No doubt the university students will have an opportunity to questions whatever Mrs Blair says in her lecture. If her views are problematical, let her speak about them, openly, and let others defend the Church's position. Nothing is to be gained from restricting students to hearing only the points on which they agree.
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Friday, 5. December 2008, 01:04
No doubt the university students will have an opportunity to questions whatever Mrs Blair says in her lecture. If her views are problematical, let her speak about them, openly, and let others defend the Church's position. Nothing is to be gained from restricting students to hearing only the points on which they agree.
True, Rose, but here in the US it will appear (as always) to the nominal Catholic that it is acceptable to be Catholic and be for the killing of the unborn in their mothers' wombs. I am leery of her speaking at a Catholic institution.

Let us pray that the students prepare well and expose her lack of concern for the human rights of unborn girls. Unless she has changed her position on abortion. I am not aware of a public retraction of her previous public support for abortion.

Edited to include possibility that Mrs. Blair no longer supports abortion.
Edited by JRJ, Friday, 5. December 2008, 18:44.
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I agree with you, Rose. Perhaps Mrs. Blair has some new insights into the subject. I know she certainly has her own views and a right to have them, but as I've always said, you can't be Catholic and pro-abortion. There is a lot to be said for women's rights on topics other than abortion...and who knows, perhaps someone in the audience at the Pontifical University might say something prophetic which will change HER mindset? One never knows. I wonder if anyone has considered offering her a green cardigan? Boggles the mind, doesn't it? :rofl:
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There is a lot to be said for women's rights on topics other than abortion...


Although this is true, the phrase "women's rights" is often a euphemism for family planning issues.

I wouldn't be too interested in what she has to say, as I am sure we have heard it all before from her, though I don't see the problem in her speaking.
"An adult faith does not follow the waves of fashion and the latest novelty."
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Timothy
Saturday, 6. December 2008, 00:12
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There is a lot to be said for women's rights on topics other than abortion...


Although this is true, the phrase "women's rights" is often a euphemism for family planning issues.
Family planning affects men, too. Abortion is the hot topic with the militant feminists.

For all we know Cheri may be including pay, education, employment, arranged marriagess and housing, worldwide.
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Fr. Phillip OP received this response to his enquiry concerning Mrs Blair's invitation to speak
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Angelicum dean responds to Blair inquiry
In response to my inquiry about the invitation to Cherie Blair to speak at the Angelicum, I received the following reply from Sr. Helen Alford, OP, dean of the school of social sciences:
Thanks for your message and your patience in waiting for a reply. As you can imagine, there is a lot going on at the moment.
Here's the bit I sent to EWTN this afternoon:
"Thank you for your interest in our conference. By inviting Mrs Blair, we, as a faculty of social sciences, are following the example of the Pope’s own social sciences institute, the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, based in the Vatican itself. Mrs Blair was invited to make an address to its 2006 plenary assembly, which focused on children and young people. After her speech, as a spontaneous act of kindness, the Pope received Mrs Blair in a private audience, despite the fact that, as it was an unexpected invitation, she was not dressed in the protocol black. She was invited to speak in an academic capacity and was received by the Pope on that basis. Obviously, in doing so, neither the Vatican as a whole, nor the Pope personally, was in any way endorsing a pro-abortion point of view, and neither are we."
Here's the link to the Zenit article about this.
As you know from the conference programme, we have another main speaker, Janne Haaland Matlary, who has been a member of the Holy See delegations to various UN conferences with Mary Ann Glendon and others. She has been featured in Zenit on several occasions, including when she published her book on her conversion to Catholicism. You might be interested to know the abstract she sent me of her talk:
"JHM will address the importance of human rights for women at a time when they are discriminated against in severe terms in many places, in not being granted equality. She discusses how the UNHR of 1948 was quite revolutionary in establishing such equality, but also points out that fundamental human rights have become an instrument for Western feminism, imposed on the Third World. For instance, there is no human right to abortion, as there is no human right to have children. When human rights are used as political tools, also repressive states will be able to define rights as they wish."
There is also time for discussion and debate from the floor.
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Tony: "Now they're bitching about her again on these Catholic chat sites!"

Cherie: (Sniff, Sniff)

Cleric: "Leave it with me Eminence!"

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Now whosoever should think that Cherie Blair could have any kind of influence over the Pontifical University in Rome, does not credit the University with the tremendous understanding it has of the basic value of human life and the right to live afforded to every human being from the moment of conception. The one to be influences is more likely to be Cherie Blair through her exposure to a greater sense of humanity, especially if grounded in the person of Jesus Christ reflected in the hearts of those she meets.
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But why invite her?

As a Catholic, she surely has no standing, with her notoriously dissident views.

She is not a politician, other than being married to one of the most dishonest politicians of recent times and one who has done untold damage to standards of Christian morality in this country.

As an "academic" what credentials has she got, other than the spurious feminist and "human rights" views she espouses? I would expect her to be invited to secularist academies, but to a Pontifical University?

A puzzle.

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She's a qualified barrister; that merits more than putting the words academic in inverted commas as if it's a qualification in knitting or something...
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Emee

You've evidently more faith in barristers than I have! They have to argue whatever case is given to them, whether they believe it or not!

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I'm just saying she would be quite educated and therefore academic, that's all. I'm not making a comment on her morals...
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