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Disney corrupts?
Topic Started: Sunday, 30. November 2008, 22:42 (503 Views)
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OsullivanB
Monday, 1. December 2008, 21:34
I knew Prinknash used to produce pottery and Buckfast still make tonic wine.

But humbug is methinks a new venture for Worth.

Trust the Benedictines!
Friends tend to inter-trade.

The Abbot of Prinknash dips his Worth humbugs into Buckfast tonic wine.

The Abbot of Buckfast stores his Worth humbugs in a Prinknash goblet.

The Abbot of Worth's nightcap is a Prinknash goblet of Buckfast tonic wine, which is very very strong. Result, he produces a load of humbug, that he flogs to the other Abbeys. The surplus is aimed at whatever target is handy, in this case Disneyland.


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Sunday, 30. November 2008, 23:05
Disney is pernicious.
How?
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Whether Disney or some other movie maker - what makes you think corruption is obvious? To what extent do we as Christians of the original Church hold fast to material values because of what we see, hear or read in film or on television, in books or in magazines? What is of greater importance, the material or the spiritual?

The material rots into nothing while the spiritual glows with the Eternal light of God.

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what makes you think corruption is obvious?

Whom are you asking? Did someone say that corruption is obvious?
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Monday, 1. December 2008, 23:33
Clare
Sunday, 30. November 2008, 23:05
Disney is pernicious.
How?
As the Abbot quoted in the Telegraph article said:

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He argues that it pretends to provide stories with a moral message, but has actually helped to create a more materialistic culture.
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Fr Jamison, who has been tipped as a contender to succeed Cardinal Cormac Murphy O'Connor as the next Archbishop of Westminster, targets the behaviour of Disney in particular, which he says is "a classic example" of how consumerism is being sold as an alternative to finding happiness in traditional morality.

While he acknowledges that Disney stories carry messages showing good triumphing over evil, he argues this is part of a ploy to persuade people that they should buy Disney products in order to be "a good and happy family".

He cites films such as Sleeping Beauty and 101 Dalmatians that feature moral battles, but get into children's imaginations and make them greedy for the merchandise that goes with them.

"The message behind every movie and book, behind every theme park and T-shirt is that our children's world needs Disney," he says.

"So they absolutely must go to see the next Disney movie, which we'll also want to give them on DVD as a birthday present.

"They will be happier if they live the full Disney experience; and thousands of families around the world buy into this deeper message as they flock to Disneyland."

He continues: "This is the new pilgrimage that children desire, a rite of passage into the meaning of life according to Disney.

"Where once morality and meaning were available as part of our free cultural inheritance, now corporations sell them to us as products."

Fr Jamison, who is one of Britain's most prominent Catholic clerics, claims that brands such as Disney market themselves to be about more than mere materialism to create an addiction to consumption.

"This is basically the commercial exploitation of spirituality," he says, adding that as a result Disney and other corporations "inhabit our imagination".

"Once planted there they can make us endlessly greedy. And that is exactly what they are doing."


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Abbots and bishops who are concerned about comsumerism, could consider counteracting by playing large companies at their own games.

Actively promote Christianity. Follow the example of Independent Christian Fellowships, have family camps, Bible and prayer weekends. Rent places like Lincolnshire Showground, for a week long rally. GIve the press something to report. Provide T Shirts with Christian logos. Proclaim the Christian message.

I await the cry "some Orders and Dioceses won't be able to afford it." Yes they can, a study of their accounts show that between them, they are get wealtheir year by year.

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I've never been to Lourdes but I understand it is full of shops. If the shops in such places as Lourdes and Disneyland were not patronised how long would they remain open?
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My mouth is watering for mintumbugs! It's years since I even eard of em let alone ate any!
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Is Legoland free from or tainted with the same sin and to the same extent as Disneyland?
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Tuesday, 2. December 2008, 17:58
Is Legoland free from or tainted with the same sin and to the same extent as Disneyland?
Don't worry your head about it. As a pensioner and probably prone to arthritis, the pain in the fingers will rule it out.
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Tuesday, 2. December 2008, 17:58
Is Legoland free from or tainted with the same sin and to the same extent as Disneyland?
One could say the same as any tourist attraction aimed at children. Should Christians boycott Alton Towers or CHessington World of Adventures? It is all a matter of balance, there is no harm in having fun provided out first priority is the salvation of our own souls, and the souls of others.

If Christians pledged to boycott seaside attractions, zoos, wildlife and theme parks, we would be contributing to unemployment and the associated social problems. The benefit and social welfare bills would rise, the Abbot might find that as an interim measure, his Abbey, a registered charity, would have to pay tax. We are stuck on this earth for a while, not all of us are called to live as hermits.
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Dear me :boxing:

Can we think of anymore fun places or activities for Catholics to boycott?

Strewth!

Is there no fun in Catholicism these days?

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Tuesday, 2. December 2008, 21:29
Is there no fun in Catholicism these days?

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There will be plenty when I find the courage to achieve my ambition and sit down on Green Cardigan's chair.

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Tuesday, 2. December 2008, 21:29
Dear me :boxing:

Can we think of anymore fun places or activities for Catholics to boycott?

Strewth!

Is there no fun in Catholicism these days?

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I note that the good Abbot made no criticism of having fun this way.

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Tuesday, 2. December 2008, 21:40
CARLO
Tuesday, 2. December 2008, 21:29
Dear me :boxing:

Can we think of anymore fun places or activities for Catholics to boycott?

Strewth!

Is there no fun in Catholicism these days?

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I note that the good Abbot made no criticism of having fun this way.

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Hmmm! :bl:

Is that where the term 'to make a fast buck' comes from?

Mea culpa


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