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The telly and the radio
Topic Started: Monday, 27. October 2008, 15:48 (1,053 Views)
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SeanJ
Thursday, 30. October 2008, 14:59
Joseph Dylong
Thursday, 30. October 2008, 14:48
Mary Whitehouse attemped to ban things that werent even truely offensive.
Has the Church ever suggested banning anything that was wan't offending anybody?
A lot of people would answer Yes to that question.
Does that mean that the Church was wrong?
There is a difference between the Church banning heretical material etc for the benefit of ones soul because it has Divine Authority, and Mary Whitehouse had a personal viewpoint and idea of what she thought as right or wrong.

That said somethings should be banned, it would be wrong to show someone being killed on TV, or hate speech etc.[redit][/redit]
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Do you have a personal viewpoint Joseph?
I know I do.
And my viewpoint differs from yours.
And my viewpoint was formed by my Catholic education.
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Putting the "Fun Dame" into Fundamentalist
Joseph,

WJFIF?

Would Jesus find it funny?
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Joseph Dylong
Thursday, 30. October 2008, 14:48

That said somethings should be banned, it would be wrong to show someone being killed on TV, or hate speech etc.

It is wrong to insult people.
It is wrong to deliberately upset another person.
It is wrong to call the police and tell them that you have information about a missing person. It is called lying.
It is wrong to boast about one's sexual exploits.

This Brand guy did all these things.
Edited by SeanJ, Thursday, 30. October 2008, 16:15.
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From the ICN article posted by Rose:
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During the summer term of 1963, she became increasingly aware of the effect that television was having on the thinking and behaviour of the children in her care. "These children were being fed with a diet of depravity night after
night,"

In my youth, I did my share of ridiculing Mrs Whitehouse's views. Now, having raised my own children, I know she was right.
The "mirror of society" argument is one often used by my sons when we discuss the rubbish on TV and it's one I find difficult to accept. Society has changed, but how much of that change can be laid at the door of the stuff we watch on TV? At one time, few children were exposed to anything other than the mildest swearing - now we have obscenities thrown at us from the corner of the living room and wonder why kids use that language.

However, Mary Whitehouse lives on:
http://www.mediawatchuk.org.uk/
That site draws attention to another BBC drama which may prove interesting
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/65695/TV-s-most-shocking-drama-ever

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SeanJ
Thursday, 30. October 2008, 15:21
Joseph Dylong
Thursday, 30. October 2008, 14:48

That said somethings should be banned, it would be wrong to show someone being killed on TV, or hate speech etc.

It is wrong to insult people.
It is wrong to deliberately upset another person.
It is wrong to call the police and tell them that you have information about a missing person. It is called lying.
It is wrong to boast about one's sexual exploits.

This Brand guy did all these things.
Artistic licence lets you do all that, apparently.
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Joseph Dylong
Thursday, 30. October 2008, 14:42
Where does one draw the line. If I want to joke about Islam for example, I should be allowed without the fear of protests, or is it the case that no jokes about religion are acceptable.
It is one thing to share humour about Islam, It is another thing to laugh at Islam in such a manner that it is held up to ridicule and derision. The same applies to Christianity in general, or Catholicism in particular.
Joseph Dylong
Thursday, 30. October 2008, 14:42
or is it the case that no jokes about religion are acceptable.


Most people enjoy laughing about themselves and their peers.

Here is my answer.
http://s10.zetaboards.com/Catholic_CyberForum/topic/105148/1/
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Clare
Thursday, 30. October 2008, 16:52
Artistic licence lets you do all that, apparently.
Art is subjective
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It is another thing to laugh at Islam in such a manner that it is held up to ridicule and derision


When and why, and not just Islam but atheism, Christianity etc, does a joke become ridicule and derision.
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Dylong. I don't think you would sit back and enjoy anyone 'phoning you and making the same statements about your daughter or grandaughter.

I don't think it was artistic licence - it was sinful. If you enjoy that sort of thing - it's up to you and your conscience.
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Derekap
Thursday, 30. October 2008, 18:02
Dylong. I don't think you would sit back and enjoy anyone 'phoning you and making the same statements about your daughter or grandaughter.

I don't think it was artistic licence - it was sinful. If you enjoy that sort of thing - it's up to you and your conscience.
Since when did I say I agreed with the event, I didnt. It was wrong, but not a sackable offence. There was no intent to hurt, they thought it was funny, and misjudged a situation, how many situations have you misjudged?
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Thursday, 30. October 2008, 18:07


There was no intent to hurt, they thought it was funny, and misjudged a situation, how many situations have you misjudged?
...except that these men are paid millions of pounds, Dylong, by the public. In return I think we're entitled to expect extremely high professional standards.

If you or I had made such a 'phone call at work and then put the recording out on the internet, for example, we would probably face instant dismissal, not to mention rotten references for any future job! [redit][/redit]
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If you or I had made such a 'phone call at work and then put the recording out on the internet, for example, we would probably face instant dismissal, not to mention rotten references for any future job! [redit][/redit]



He was due to go on the show, he knew what to expect, so they phoned him, and he wasnt in. They would have made similar jokes to his face.
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Stephen Whittle, ex-director, Broadcasting Standards Commission

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It depends who you are. Young men and women living in cities will think nothing of lyrics with strong sexual language. But if they have younger siblings or are parents themselves they will take a different view. In the end, it is a matter of manners. We use different words in different places and with different people. The street is not the same as the pub or the workplace or the home. The rules are clear: "Thou shalt not swear before the watershed." The trade-off is greater freedom for adults after 9pm.

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The BBC used to be a great role model, for standards of decency and good manners. It will be interesting to see whether today's events lead to a return to those standards.
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