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The telly and the radio
Topic Started: Monday, 27. October 2008, 15:48 (1,055 Views)
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The people who have really been manipulated are those who have been desensitised and conned into having their intelligence insulted like this, relentlessly, week after week.


Have you heard Brand, he is funny, and quite intelligent as is Ross. They reach a certain audience, and Ross is an excellent film critic.

The BBC is more than songs of praise and garden shows, it has to reach a cross section of society. And yes, fringe comedy that offends is very funny.

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Still, I'm incredibly surprised that you are defending them, Joseph. It's not like you!


I dont always agree with some of their comments, however, they are funny as they are not PC, and are very good at the routines and jokes etc. Like little Britain. Besides, I believe in free speech, and the right to offend.
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Clare
Thursday, 30. October 2008, 00:18
Joseph Dylong
Wednesday, 29. October 2008, 20:30
Out of context, did you watch the whole show?
I thought it was on the radio.
I meant listen, but can watch on youtube.
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My generation, your generation, and younger need to learn that we can't always get what we want.



Exactly, so why are some snobby people trying to get Ross sacked, and make Brand resign, after all, they cant always get what they want. A great comedian has left the BBC, what a shame!

Their comedy is artistic. Would you ban the statue of David or naked paintings or nude photos (art and lust)?
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I didn't hear the show, and their antics sounded very childish and stupid from the reports I read of what they said, but the campaign against them in the media is way over the top. Thousands of complaints have been made by people who never even heard the show (how can you complain about something that you didn't even witness? Who apart from Andrew Sachs, and maybe his granddaughter has the right to be so upset?)
The only one with any dignity in this episode is Andrew Sachs, who has received apologies. I was appalled on behalf of his granddaughter, who, I was led to believe by the Daily Mail (ha!) was some virginal teenager, until I found out she is an "aspiring model" who dances with a group called the Satanic Sluts, and is so "devastated" (her word) that she has sold her story to the Sun.

there's a war going on in Congo, but that doesn't matter to the tabloids, because none of those victims are burlesque dancers.
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I was led to believe by the Daily Mail (ha!) was some virginal teenager, until I found out she is an "aspiring model" who dances with a group called the Satanic Sluts, and is so "devastated" (her word) that she has sold her story to the Sun.


Exactly, yet few dare mention these issues. The Sun has paid her quite a bit, which is why all interviews have the sun logo, she is profiting of her grandads misery.
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Thursday, 30. October 2008, 01:45
The Sun has paid her quite a bit, which is why all interviews have the sun logo, she is profiting of her grandads misery.
If that is so, she gets no sympathy from me.
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Thursday, 30. October 2008, 01:47
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Thursday, 30. October 2008, 01:45
The Sun has paid her quite a bit, which is why all interviews have the sun logo, she is profiting of her grandads misery.
If that is so, she gets no sympathy from me.
Yep, and the satanic thing is true too!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/oct/30/russell-brand-ross-baillie-sachs
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Thursday, 30. October 2008, 01:43
I am talking about people with different ages, class, social backgrounds, religions, etc. I am not saying they just appeal to young people but a cross section of society, however, as pointed out in many commentaries, most complaints have come from middle england. You know the daily mail types.
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Society has changed, and my generation and younger want and like more hard hitting programmes and comedy.

The BBC has to cater for my generation as well as yours, and Brand represents that kinda thing.


You say it is your generation and younger who want and like more hard hitting programmes and comedy. Age has nothing to do with it.

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I pay my licence fee, and the BBC shouldnt just cater for a middle class elite who are a bunch of snobs, but a cross section of society.


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That is the nature of comedy, but maybe it doesnt fit in with the middle class elite


Are the middle classes elite? Are they all of snobs? What exactly defines a person as middle class?

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I am not saying they just appeal to young people but a cross section of society, however, as pointed out in many commentaries, most complaints have come from middle england.


Presumably the locations of complainants are identified by Postal or STD codes, which give no indication of income or capital. Not every person in middle England is "middle class". Somebody empties the bins, cleans toilets, works on the shop floor, fills shelves.



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Yes, my generation and younger do want and like more hard hitting programmes and comedy, however, that doesnt mean the older generations do not like such comedy.

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Presumably the locations of complainants are identified by Postal or STD codes, which give no indication of income or capital. Not every person in middle England is "middle class". Somebody empties the bins, cleans toilets, works on the shop floor, fills shelves.


Middle England is a political term used by some to describe the Middle Class
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Thursday, 30. October 2008, 03:15
Middle England is a political term used by some to describe the Middle Class
some of whom are as rough as sandpaper. Well, that depends upon whether class is determined by money.
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Joseph Dylong
Thursday, 30. October 2008, 01:00
Their comedy is artistic. Would you ban the statue of David or naked paintings or nude photos (art and lust)?
No. There's no comparison. Their "comedy" is not artistic. It is puerile and juvenile.
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Thursday, 30. October 2008, 01:19
I didn't hear the show, and their antics sounded very childish and stupid from the reports I read of what they said, but the campaign against them in the media is way over the top.
It's a case of the last straw, I think. A straw isn't much in itself, but perhaps people are just fed up with their intelligence being insulted. They should have complained decades ago about the way things were going, and then none of this would have happened. A clear case of shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted.
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Thursday, 30. October 2008, 01:45
The Sun has paid her quite a bit, which is why all interviews have the sun logo, she is profiting of her grandads misery.
If that is so, she gets no sympathy from me.
I don't sympathise with her either. As soon as I saw her picture and read about what she does, it put things in a different light. But Ross and Brand were cruel to Andrew Sachs, and it was just nasty. It being "art" does not make it all right.
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Thursday, 30. October 2008, 00:56
Have you heard Brand, he is funny, and quite intelligent as is Ross. They reach a certain audience, and Ross is an excellent film critic.
You've heard of the Trojan horse, haven't you, Joseph?

Being funny and intelligent, and a good film critic, does not give one the right to sin publicly (and obscenity is sinful) and encourage others to do so.

Don't let talent be a Trojan horse.

Sacha Baron Cohen is also talented and clever. Does that give him the right to humiliate and exploit a whole community, as Borat did?

I once quite liked Jonathan Ross, before fame went to his head. His old Channel 4 shows were quite good. Perhaps he's going through a midlife crisis now.

We should pray for Ross and Brand. :crossrc:
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Thursday, 30. October 2008, 11:08


Sacha Baron Cohen is also talented and clever. Does that give him the right to humiliate and exploit a whole community...

I've always thought that the Borat charicature is racist. :clare:
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