New prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship?

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New prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship?
Topic Started: Monday, 13. October 2008, 21:59 (431 Views)
Deleted User	Sunday, 19. October 2008, 14:12 Post #31
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Deleted User	Sunday, 19. October 2008, 14:22 Post #32
Deleted User	Found it: Quote: The matter required for a valid celebration of the Eucharist consists of wheat bread and grape wine (CIC 924). In the Latin Rite of the Church, the bread must be unleavened for a licit celebration (CIC 926). In all rites of the Church, the wine must be mixed with a small quantity of water for a licit celebration. However, neither the presence of water nor the absence of leaven is needed for a valid celebration. In fact, most of the Eastern Rites use leavened bread for confecting the Eucharist. http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/1999/9905chap.asp
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OsullivanB	Sunday, 19. October 2008, 15:08 Post #33
Posts: 2,193 Group: Moderator Member #205 Joined: August 14, 2008	FALSE ALARM! Roll up the celestial firehoses. The fires of hell turn out to be a misidentified damp squib - water was present all the time. I wonder if with DR's permission and that of other posters this forum might not be best served by the removal of all postings on the subject of the unwatered wine.



Deleted User	Sunday, 19. October 2008, 15:20 Post #34
Deleted User	OsullivanB Sunday, 19. October 2008, 15:08 FALSE ALARM! Roll up the celestial firehoses. The fires of hell turn out to be a misidentified damp squib - water was present all the time. I wonder if with DR's permission and that of other posters this forum might not be best served by the removal of all postings on the subject of the unwatered wine. I think it should be left (considering I just spent a good while looking into this subject, and you never know, it may educate someone else) Besides, it is relevant as such question go to the heart of our understanding or misunderstanding, which is something the prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Sacraments will have to deal with on a daily basis.
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Deleted User	Sunday, 19. October 2008, 15:21 Post #35
Deleted User	What do we know about Cardinal Antonio Canizares Llovera of Toledo (the one who supposed to replace Cardinal Arinze)?
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KatyA	Sunday, 19. October 2008, 15:55 Post #36
Administrator Posts: 5,391 Group: Admin Member #6 Joined: September 26, 2006	Apparently he is known in Spain as "little Ratzinger" Sounds OK to me KatyA



Deleted User	Sunday, 19. October 2008, 16:01 Post #37
Deleted User	KatyA Sunday, 19. October 2008, 15:55 Apparently he is known in Spain as "little Ratzinger" Sounds OK to me KatyA Thats great news, and just in case no-one knows what he looks like: He is also youngish (in vatican age terms born 1945), and is a member of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei. The other rumour I read was "the list of those who may be picked by the Pope for the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments (Prefect) is reduced to two names: Cardinal Ca�izares Llovera, Archbishop of Toledo, and Archbishop Malcolm Ranjith, current secretary of the same dicastery." Both would be good choices, both support the Popes liturgical plans. The Pope is slowly showing his authority and placing people who aer loyal to powerful positions.[redit][/redit]
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KatyA	Tuesday, 9. December 2008, 19:12 Post #38
Administrator Posts: 5,391 Group: Admin Member #6 Joined: September 26, 2006	VATICAN CITY, 9 DEC 2008 (VIS) - The Holy Father appointed Cardinal Antonio Canizares Llovera, archbishop of Toledo, Spain, as prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments. He succeeds Cardinal Francis Arinze, whose resignation from the same office the Holy Father accepted, upon having reached the age limit.



CARLO	Thursday, 11. December 2008, 22:02 Post #39
Posts: 1,687 Group: Members Member #27 Joined: September 28, 2006	Well he is wearing standard pre-V2 No 2 kit although the pectoral cross looks worryingly modernist and slightly 'eastern' ! Veritas Should be ok CARLO
	Judica me Deus


Rose of York	Thursday, 11. December 2008, 22:34 Post #40
Administrator Posts: 14,517 Group: Admin Member #2 Joined: September 25, 2006	CARLO Thursday, 11. December 2008, 22:02 Well he is wearing standard pre-V2 No 2 kit Is No 1 kit for home worship and No 2 kit for away friendlies at the C of E?
	$Posted Image$ Catholic and proud of it! Talk to God before Mass. Talk to each other afterwards


CARLO	Friday, 12. December 2008, 21:20 Post #41
Posts: 1,687 Group: Members Member #27 Joined: September 28, 2006	Rose of York Thursday, 11. December 2008, 22:34 CARLO Thursday, 11. December 2008, 22:02 Well he is wearing standard pre-V2 No 2 kit Is No 1 kit for home worship and No 2 kit for away friendlies at the C of E? Any pre V2 away kit should include the biretta. Veritas Truth CARLO
	Judica me Deus


John Sweeney	Friday, 12. December 2008, 21:59 Post #42
Posts: 1,834 Group: Members Member #68 Joined: March 20, 2007	And he is supported by "Deleted User" so he must be OK. John



CARLO	Saturday, 13. December 2008, 19:07 Post #43
Posts: 1,687 Group: Members Member #27 Joined: September 28, 2006	John Sweeney Friday, 12. December 2008, 21:59 And he is supported by "Deleted User" so he must be OK. John I suppose in the end we all become 'Deleted Users' ! Libera me Deliver me CARLO
	Judica me Deus


John Sweeney	Sunday, 14. December 2008, 19:46 Post #44
Posts: 1,834 Group: Members Member #68 Joined: March 20, 2007	Agreed Carlo, comes to us all although some unkind colleagues here have suggested I am more of a Deluded User at present. John



Rose of York	Sunday, 14. December 2008, 20:03 Post #45
Administrator Posts: 14,517 Group: Admin Member #2 Joined: September 25, 2006	CARLO Saturday, 13. December 2008, 19:07 I suppose in the end we all become 'Deleted Users' ! Libera me Deliver me CARLO Fat chance! We need you, to cheer us up in your capacity of Head Boy of the Houses of Mantillas and CAPTIONS, PLEASE!
	$Posted Image$ Catholic and proud of it! Talk to God before Mass. Talk to each other afterwards


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