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| Penfold | Friday, 27. July 2012, 10:16 Post #121 |
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Just a link to the parish of the priest whose blog is the source of the article offered by Rose. https://sites.google.com/site/tollingtonpark/home https://sites.google.com/site/tollingtonpark/parish-priest-s-page |
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| Rose of York | Friday, 27. July 2012, 14:01 Post #122 |
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David Walter is parish priest of St Mellitus, Tollington Park, London. http://davidawalter.blogspot.co.uk/
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| Ned | Friday, 27. July 2012, 15:13 Post #123 |
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Yes, https://sites.google.com/site/tollingtonpark/home is the parish website. But https://sites.google.com/site/tollingtonpark/parish-priest-s-page seems to have been the blog of the previous PP. There's a note at the top of it, "As it is unsuitable to use the parish website as a personal soap-box, the current parish priest has opened a blog ... (3rd March 2012)" At least one item at https://sites.google.com/site/tollingtonpark/parish-priest-s-page might be controversial, so it's important to make that clear. Regards Ned |
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| Rose of York | Friday, 27. July 2012, 15:43 Post #124 |
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https://sites.google.com/site/tollingtonpark/contact Contact page of St Mellitus parish website gives information about the parish priest. His name is David Ardagh-Walter
The blogger and the current parish priest are one and the same person, David Walter. I take it he has the courtesy to use the parish website for parish purposes and his blog for his personal opinions. The link to the personal blog is David Walter's Blog |
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| Anne-Marie | Friday, 27. July 2012, 15:58 Post #125 |
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This entry in the (former?) PPs blog I just love: WESTMINSTER PLC AGAIN At this time of year it’s traditional for the clergy to have a rant against materialism: which sounds like sour grapes. This year the anti-materialism card is unplayable as the diocese has bought into a fundraising scheme. It was first put to the clergy in (I think) April. We now hear that the American-based campaign is entitled Growing in Faith. Fundraising is fine provided we’re straight about it but religious icing on the financial cake leaves a nasty taste in the mouth. There is a Canadian fundraising scheme called Growing in Faith Together (GIFT), which may or may not be the same thing. Canada has its own problems but here we have disillusionment from the saga of abusive clergy and inept bishops, the refusal (against canon law) of bishops to consult the laity, the rise of half-baked reactionaries who don't understand, let alone accept, the authority of the last council of the Church, and all we have to offer is a pompous translation of the Mass and a drive for fund-raisers. Well might we rant against materialism, starting with that of our diocesan curias. |
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| Rose of York | Friday, 27. July 2012, 16:04 Post #126 |
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Father David Walters post dated 19 July is the one that led me to raise the issue on the forum. He says clergy are instructed to identify and visit the biggest givers in the parish and ask them to make a five year commitment. He further complains that it leads to lack of confidentiality because "For decades parishioners using planned giving were guaranteed anonymity. Every parish had someone who kept these records, but a big part of the scheme was that the parish priest would not be able to see how much each person gave. That was reserved to the co-ordinator. That protection is now to be abandoned." Father Walters claims that in a presentation for the scheme, people who do not attend Mass were identified as suitable targets for Planned Giving. |
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| Derekap | Sunday, 29. July 2012, 18:00 Post #127 |
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I fear the scheme is more concerned with the financial circumstances than the spiritual circumstances of parishioners! Fr David Walter quoted someone when he wrote: 'Pray, pay and obey'. In this case I would say 'Pay, obey and then, if you feel like it, pray' (Fr David Walter seems to be very openly critically on many Church topics) |
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| Anne-Marie | Sunday, 29. July 2012, 20:15 Post #128 |
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Could that be why he's no longer PP there??? |
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| Penfold | Sunday, 29. July 2012, 20:32 Post #129 |
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he is still listed as PP on the Diocesan web site. |
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| Rose of York | Sunday, 29. July 2012, 23:16 Post #130 |
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On the parish website the contact information and this week's newsletter name Father Walter as parish priest. He is still there. |
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