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| Topic Started: Monday, 16. October 2006, 23:34 (2,330 Views) | |
| Rose of York | Sunday, 18. January 2009, 19:02 Post #76 |
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There's a nice Catholic job going, for anybody who could do with £35,929 plus benefits. The advert says nothing about qualifications or experience. For further information, including a Job Description and Application Form, please click HERE to visit the Catholic Church in England & Wales website. The closing date for job applications in 23 January 2009. |
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| Karin | Sunday, 18. January 2009, 21:11 Post #77 |
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Ah, perhaps I should apply. I'm looking for a good job! But seriously, our diocese has just had its fund raising effort and they surpassed their goal of $50,000,000. This is one of the first fund drives where they actually have surpassed it. Most of the time they are woefully underfunded! |
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Karin Hvaljen Isus i Marija. Kraljica Mira, moli za nas. "Praised be Jesus and Mary. Queen of Peace, Pray for Us." | |
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| Karin | Sunday, 18. January 2009, 21:15 Post #78 |
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Naaah....wrong location. It's in London and the position would only last about three years. Don't think it's for me!!! |
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Karin Hvaljen Isus i Marija. Kraljica Mira, moli za nas. "Praised be Jesus and Mary. Queen of Peace, Pray for Us." | |
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| Rose of York | Sunday, 18. January 2009, 21:53 Post #79 |
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Karin in your diocese how many people are there, and how many churches and schools? |
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| Rose of York | Sunday, 18. January 2009, 22:00 Post #80 |
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To provide co-ordination and leadership on behalf of the Catholic Church in England and Wales by enthusing and engaging the Catholic community of England and Wales to make a significant contribution to the 2012 Olympic and Paralympics Games and to build a legacy of sport and faith in our parishes, schools and colleges as taught by Pope John Paul II. I reckon its a seditious modernist plot. The bishops of England and Wales trying to get us all enthused and engaged to make a significant contribution to the Olympics? How much do they pay for enthusing and engaging us to make a significant contibution to saving souls? Develop policy by identifying, reviewing and collating examples of good practice in ‘grassroots’ sports projects and activities in the Catholic Church between 2009 and 2012 in order that ‘Church and sport’ continues beyond 2012. That is a very longwinded way of saying "clergy golf OK." |
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| SeanJ | Sunday, 18. January 2009, 23:03 Post #81 |
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| Rose of York | Monday, 19. January 2009, 01:47 Post #82 |
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Priests come a lot cheaper, they don't ask for much, but they are a bit thin on the ground at the moment. I just thought, if they have that much of our money to chuck around, they could consider creating another post for someone who will whip up our enthusiasm for Godly matters. |
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| Karin | Monday, 19. January 2009, 02:59 Post #83 |
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Rose, I've just checked out Diocesan web site and the statistics are as follows: We have 164 parishes in 15 Deaneries, in 19 counties covering over 15,000 sq. miles. One of the deaneries is The Holy Cross Parish in Santa Cruz, Bolivia and is a mission parish. We also support an orphanage in Peru. We have right around 200,000 Catholics in our Diocese and as to priests, we have right around 120 full-time parish priests, somewhere around 80-90 retired clergy who either supplement parishes or act as associate pastors, plus an extremely active Deaconate Programme, a packed seminary, some very large convents, a Catholic university - Viterbo University, a Catholic Hospital (St. Francis), the Shrine of Our Lady of Guadalupe, which is just magnificent and all new, an excellent Catholic school system representing all grades, plus the Diocese is extremely active. There are Hispanic ministries as well as Hmong. And there is a Traditional Mass (Novus Ordo in Latin) once a month. (Some parishes actually have more than one.) We were blown away by the generosity of all the participants donating to the bishop's appeal and its surpassing their goals. And our bishop, Jerome Listecki, is from the Chicago area and an excellent shepherd of this flock. He's very down to earth and everyone admires him.
Edited by Karin, Monday, 19. January 2009, 03:08.
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| Derekap | Monday, 19. January 2009, 18:30 Post #84 |
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Talking about church finance, one of two pyramid/ponzi frauds revealed since the infamous Madoff affair involved an 82 year old Knight of St Columbus in New York State who collected money from priests, parishioners and others promising to invest it for their benefit. He gathered US$50m over two years. There has been no trace of investments. |
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| Karin | Wednesday, 21. January 2009, 05:22 Post #85 |
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And Mr. Madoff is still a semi-free man....he's under house arrest in his multi-million dollar apartment in New York City. The man can afford the best lawyers in the world because he took everyone's money! The man has no conscience. |
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Karin Hvaljen Isus i Marija. Kraljica Mira, moli za nas. "Praised be Jesus and Mary. Queen of Peace, Pray for Us." | |
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| Derekap | Thursday, 22. January 2009, 17:14 Post #86 |
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Are you sure the apartment still belongs to him, Karin? |
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| OsullivanB | Thursday, 22. January 2009, 18:33 Post #87 |
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This would be quite usual in England at least until conviction and often until sentence. I think the same approach prevails in the US. Confiscation of private property is also usually delayed until post-conviction sentencing, and after a thorough investigation of the funding of that property. Edited by OsullivanB, Thursday, 22. January 2009, 18:34.
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| Deleted User | Sunday, 1. February 2009, 14:24 Post #88 |
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Where do our financial loyalties lie as Catholics? Is our first duty to our parish or to the diocese? Our parish has a new parish hall with a substantial debt. Our diocese has launched a major appeal for money to look after retired priests, to repair the Cathedral and to fund evangelisation. Obviously there is some interlinking here as diocesan funds were used to help fund our hall. Nevertheless some people are saying they cannot respond to both needs and the majority seem to take the view that the parish comes first. John |
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| Rose of York | Sunday, 1. February 2009, 18:01 Post #89 |
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John, without parishes there would be no diocese. Dioceses cream substantial amounts of parishes, in annual levies. I would put the parish first. The diocese wants money, to fund evangelisation. Where would the evangelised converts go, to meet the other parishioners, if there hall is closed due to being in a poor state of repair. Meeting other parishioners and forging friendships with them is vital for new converts, they need the encouragement and support of Catholic friends. Have you checked the Diocese's balance sheet, available on Charity Commission website? That will tell you what the diocese is worth in properties, money and long term investments, such as stocks and shares. You will also be able to compare with the previous year's situation. |
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| PJD | Sunday, 1. February 2009, 18:13 Post #90 |
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John In view of the current financial situation in the country, projects like new parish halls might not get started - at least if they involved substantial debt. Regarding loyalties to parish or diocese - doesn't the diocese mandate a percentage of parish funds to itself? I have taken on board what your say John about retired priests - I mean those currently retired. Have switched any requests for Masses via Aid Church in Need to requests given to any retired priests I know. It's slightly more expensive and I am not sure that those here would approve. But let's face it Christmas and Easter donations are not as far as I am aware shared out with those retired priests who help the parish out. So if you want a Mass said, why ask one of them?? What do you think? PJD |
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