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Finance - Church, Diocese and Parish
Topic Started: Monday, 16. October 2006, 23:34 (2,330 Views)
Rose of York
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There's a nice Catholic job going, for anybody who could do with £35,929 plus benefits. The advert says nothing about qualifications or experience.

For further information, including a Job Description and Application Form, please click HERE to visit the Catholic Church in England & Wales website. The closing date for job applications in 23 January 2009.
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Karin
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Ah, perhaps I should apply. I'm looking for a good job! But seriously, our diocese has just had its fund raising effort and they surpassed their goal of $50,000,000. This is one of the first fund drives where they actually have surpassed it. Most of the time they are woefully underfunded!
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Naaah....wrong location. It's in London and the position would only last about three years. Don't think it's for me!!!
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Sunday, 18. January 2009, 21:11
Ah, perhaps I should apply. I'm looking for a good job! But seriously, our diocese has just had its fund raising effort and they surpassed their goal of $50,000,000. This is one of the first fund drives where they actually have surpassed it. Most of the time they are woefully underfunded!
Karin in your diocese how many people are there, and how many churches and schools?
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Sunday, 18. January 2009, 19:02
There's a nice Catholic job going, for anybody who could do with £35,929 plus benefits. The advert says nothing about qualifications or experience.

For further information, including a Job Description and Application Form, please click HERE to visit the Catholic Church in England & Wales website. The closing date for job applications in 23 January 2009.
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Vacancies > Catholic Olympics Co-ordinator
Catholic Olympics Co-ordinator

Catholic Bishops’ Conference of England and Wales
Catholic Olympics Co-ordinator

Canning Town, London E16

Salary: £35,929 plus benefits

Role purpose of the Catholic Olympics Co-ordinator:



Location:

Anchor House, 81 Barking Road, Canning Town, London E16 3HB

About the Catholic 2012 Committee:

The contribution of the Catholic Church to the 2012 Games will be in line with previous Olympic Games and other international sporting events such as the World Cup, Winter Olympics.

The Aims of the Catholic 2012 Committee is to oversee the provision of services to the Games on behalf of the Catholic community in the following areas:

1. 1. Evangelisation - through prayer, service and witnessing to God’s Word
2. Catholic Chaplaincy - to the participants in the Games
3. Hospitality - Volunteers; Visitors to the Games; Young People; Families of Athletes
4. Volunteers from the Catholic Community - recruitment and training
5. Engagement with Cultural Olympiad - organisation of cultural and sporting events
6. Youth Legacy - establishment of the John Paul Foundation for Sport

The post holder is the Executive Officer of the Catholic 2012 Committee.

Key Tasks and Responsibilities:

To deliver the six aims of the Catholic 2012 Committee.

Develop policy by identifying, reviewing and collating examples of good practice in ‘grassroots’ sports projects and activities in the Catholic Church between 2009 and 2012 in order that ‘Church and sport’ continues beyond 2012.

To service the relevant Working Groups of the Catholic 2012 Committee in regards to the Aims of the Committee as stated.

Accountability:

To the Catholic Bishops Conference of England and Wales but relating most immediately to the Catholic 2012 Committee and the Vicar General of the Brentwood Diocese.

Provide regular reports to, and communication with, the Catholic 2012 Committee.

An evaluation project is required at the mid-way point of two years.

Stakeholder Relationships:

In addition to the above the post holder will liaise with:

The Churches 2012 Initiative “More Than Gold” through: The Executive Team; and the Programme Teams.

Pontifical Council for the Laity – Sports Office, Vatican City

Catholic Bishops Conference of Scotland re Commonwealth Games

Other Faith groups

The Olympic Delivery Authority (ODA)

The London Organising Committee of the Olympic Games (LOCOG)

The Department of Culture, Media and Sport (DCMS)

The Mayor of London

For full job description and person specification, see the downloadable forms below.

How to apply

If you would like to informally discuss this role, in the first instance, please contact Aminata Kamara on 020 7901 4816.

For an application pack, please click on the links below to download an application form and job description. Closing date for job applications is 23rd January 2009. Interiews will take place the week commencing 2nd February 2009. If you have not heard back from us by Friday 30th January 2009 please assume on this occasion your application was unsuccessful.

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Catholic Olympics Co-ordinator: Application Form (MS Word)

Catholic Olympics Co-ordinator: Job Description (MS Word)

Catholic Olympics Co-ordinator: Cover Letter (MS Word)

About Us (pdf)

CBCEW Vision, Mission and Values (pdf)

Emailed applications will be accepted, but in addition a hard copy bearing your signature must also be received.

Please email recruit@cbcew.org.uk if you need help in completing the application form.

If you require any specific arrangements to be made enabling you to attend the interview or to undertake the role should you be appointed, please let us know in a covering letter.

Thank you for your interest in the Catholic Trust for England and Wales. We look forward to receiving your completed application form.

With best wishes,

Aminata Kamara
HR Manager

Tel: 0207 901 4816; Fax: 0207 901 4819
Email: aminata.kamara@cbcew.org.uk or recruit@cbcew.org.uk


To provide co-ordination and leadership on behalf of the Catholic Church in England and Wales by enthusing and engaging the Catholic community of England and Wales to make a significant contribution to the 2012 Olympic and Paralympics Games and to build a legacy of sport and faith in our parishes, schools and colleges as taught by Pope John Paul II.

I reckon its a seditious modernist plot. The bishops of England and Wales trying to get us all enthused and engaged to make a significant contribution to the Olympics? How much do they pay for enthusing and engaging us to make a significant contibution to saving souls?

Develop policy by identifying, reviewing and collating examples of good practice in ‘grassroots’ sports projects and activities in the Catholic Church between 2009 and 2012 in order that ‘Church and sport’ continues beyond 2012.
That is a very longwinded way of saying "clergy golf OK."
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Rose of York
Sunday, 18. January 2009, 22:00
Rose of York
Sunday, 18. January 2009, 19:02

I reckon its a seditious modernist plot. The bishops of England and Wales trying to get us all enthused and engaged to make a significant contribution to the Olympics? How much do they pay for enthusing and engaging us to make a significant contibution to saving souls?

Develop policy by identifying, reviewing and collating examples of good practice in ‘grassroots’ sports projects and activities in the Catholic Church between 2009 and 2012 in order that ‘Church and sport’ continues beyond 2012.
That is a very longwinded way of saying "clergy golf OK."
Rose,
I think that you ask some very pertinent (awkward) questions.
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Sunday, 18. January 2009, 23:03
Rose of York
Sunday, 18. January 2009, 22:00

I reckon its a seditious modernist plot. The bishops of England and Wales trying to get us all enthused and engaged to make a significant contribution to the Olympics? How much do they pay for enthusing and engaging us to make a significant contibution to saving souls?

Develop policy by identifying, reviewing and collating examples of good practice in ‘grassroots’ sports projects and activities in the Catholic Church between 2009 and 2012 in order that ‘Church and sport’ continues beyond 2012.
That is a very longwinded way of saying "clergy golf OK."
Rose,
I think that you ask some very pertinent (awkward) questions.
Priests come a lot cheaper, they don't ask for much, but they are a bit thin on the ground at the moment.

I just thought, if they have that much of our money to chuck around, they could consider creating another post for someone who will whip up our enthusiasm for Godly matters.
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Rose, I've just checked out Diocesan web site and the statistics are as follows: We have 164 parishes in 15 Deaneries, in 19 counties covering over 15,000 sq. miles. One of the deaneries is The Holy Cross Parish in Santa Cruz, Bolivia and is a mission parish. We also support an orphanage in Peru. We have right around 200,000 Catholics in our Diocese and as to priests, we have right around 120 full-time parish priests, somewhere around 80-90 retired clergy who either supplement parishes or act as associate pastors, plus an extremely active Deaconate Programme, a packed seminary, some very large convents, a Catholic university - Viterbo University, a Catholic Hospital (St. Francis), the Shrine of Our Lady of Guadalupe, which is just magnificent and all new, an excellent Catholic school system representing all grades, plus the Diocese is extremely active. There are Hispanic ministries as well as Hmong. And there is a Traditional Mass (Novus Ordo in Latin) once a month. (Some parishes actually have more than one.) We were blown away by the generosity of all the participants donating to the bishop's appeal and its surpassing their goals. And our bishop, Jerome Listecki, is from the Chicago area and an excellent shepherd of this flock. He's very down to earth and everyone admires him.
Edited by Karin, Monday, 19. January 2009, 03:08.
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Talking about church finance, one of two pyramid/ponzi frauds revealed since the infamous Madoff affair involved an 82 year old Knight of St Columbus in New York State who collected money from priests, parishioners and others promising to invest it for their benefit. He gathered US$50m over two years. There has been no trace of investments.
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And Mr. Madoff is still a semi-free man....he's under house arrest in his multi-million dollar apartment in New York City. The man can afford the best lawyers in the world because he took everyone's money! The man has no conscience.
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Are you sure the apartment still belongs to him, Karin?
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Karin
 
And Mr. Madoff is still a semi-free man...he's under house arrest in his multi-million dollar apartment in New York City.

This would be quite usual in England at least until conviction and often until sentence. I think the same approach prevails in the US. Confiscation of private property is also usually delayed until post-conviction sentencing, and after a thorough investigation of the funding of that property.
Edited by OsullivanB, Thursday, 22. January 2009, 18:34.
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Where do our financial loyalties lie as Catholics? Is our first duty to our parish or to the diocese? Our parish has a new parish hall with a substantial debt. Our diocese has launched a major appeal for money to look after retired priests, to repair the Cathedral and to fund evangelisation. Obviously there is some interlinking here as diocesan funds were used to help fund our hall. Nevertheless some people are saying they cannot respond to both needs and the majority seem to take the view that the parish comes first.

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John, without parishes there would be no diocese. Dioceses cream substantial amounts of parishes, in annual levies. I would put the parish first.

The diocese wants money, to fund evangelisation. Where would the evangelised converts go, to meet the other parishioners, if there hall is closed due to being in a poor state of repair. Meeting other parishioners and forging friendships with them is vital for new converts, they need the encouragement and support of Catholic friends.

Have you checked the Diocese's balance sheet, available on Charity Commission website? That will tell you what the diocese is worth in properties, money and long term investments, such as stocks and shares. You will also be able to compare with the previous year's situation.
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John

In view of the current financial situation in the country, projects like new parish halls might not get started - at least if they involved substantial debt.

Regarding loyalties to parish or diocese - doesn't the diocese mandate a percentage of parish funds to itself?

I have taken on board what your say John about retired priests - I mean those currently retired. Have switched any requests for Masses via Aid Church in Need to requests given to any retired priests I know. It's slightly more expensive and I am not sure that those here would approve. But let's face it Christmas and Easter donations are not as far as I am aware shared out with those retired priests who help the parish out. So if you want a Mass said, why ask one of them??

What do you think?

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