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Marian Apparitions In France Recognised; Benôite Rencurel between 1664 and 1718.
Topic Started: Monday, 5. May 2008, 22:15 (279 Views)
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Rome, May 5, 2008 / 11:56 am (CNA).- On Sunday during a Mass celebrated in the town of Laus in the French Alps, Bishop Jean-Michel de Falco of Gap, accompanied by numerous cardinals and archbishops from around the world, announced the official approval of the Church of the Marian apparitions to Benôite (Benedicta) Rencurel between 1664 and 1718.

During the Mass, attended by Roman Curia officials including Cardinal Javier Lozano Barragan, Bishop de Falco noted these are the first Marian apparitions to be approved in the 21st century by the Vatican and the Church in France. He called it the most singular event to take place in France since the apparitions of Lourdes in 1862.
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I saw that in the local (secular) papers this morning.

Excellent news! I had just barely heard of the place before and knew little of it.

Having another fully approved apparition / shrine is a boon.
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I must be a weird sort of Catholic, I never feel the need to visit shrines. I don't like crowds anyway. To me, it is sufficient to know God is around, everywhere, all the time, and as his mother did not die, she also is always with us.

I do respect the fact that to some, visiting shrines is of great benefit.

The only major shrine I have visited is Walsingham, I went privately, not on an organised pilgrimage. One of my favourite "prayer places" is a little tiny chapel, in a wood near home. It is about twenty feet long, no longer used for regular services, but the door is always open until nightfall. Lots of walkers pop in for a few minutes.
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KatyA
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There is more information about Our Lady of Laus at Our Lady of Laus and on the official Laus website. Unfortunately the official website is only in French Notre Dame du Laus

Thanks to Greg Kandra at the Deacon's Bench for these links. (he has some other great stories too)

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However, Laus belonged to the Diocese of Embrun at that time. Being from the Diocese of Gap, Father Gaillard did not possess the authority to pass official judgment. Upon the recommendation of several priests, he therefore wrote to Father Antoine Lambert, the Vicar General of the Diocese of Embrun, and requested that he initiate an ecclesiastical inquiry.

Father Lambert was most unsympathetic towards the apparitions at Laus, and he was not pleased to see the faithful forsaking the old pilgrimage to Our Lady of Embrun. He was convinced that Benoite's apparitions were diabolical and that she was just a common illuminate. On September 14, 1665, he came to Laus in the company of several eminent priests, equally unsympathetic to the events at Laus, hoping to put an end to "this sorcery," prove Benoite guilty of a hoax, and shut down the chapel. When the poor shepherd girl heard that they had arrived, she was so afraid that she wanted to leave, but the Mother of God reassured her: "No, My daughter, you must not run away. You must remain, for you must do justice to churchmen. They will question you one by one and try to catch you with your own words. But don't be afraid. Tell the Vicar General that he can very well make God come down from Heaven by the power he received when he became a priest, but he has no commands to give the Mother of God."
When the Vicar General reached Laus, he entered the chapel to pray for a moment and then summoned the shepherd girl. Backed by his colleagues, he questioned Benoite haughtily, trying to trap her and make her contradict herself. She remained unruffled and answered him with simplicity and calm assurance. Her words were clear and surprisingly affirmative.
"Don't think I have come here to authorize your visions and illusions, and all the strange things that are being said about you and this place," the Vicar General said severely. "It is my conviction, as it is of everyone with any common sense, that your visions are false. Consequently, I am going to close down this chapel and prohibit the devotion. As for you, you have only to go back home."



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This seems to have a similar ring about it, dont you think?
God bless

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Certainly gives one food for thought Pete...
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This article from CNA would appear to be quite timely
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Rome, May 8, 2008 / 03:33 pm (CNA).- Salvatore M. Perrella, an expert in dogma and Mariology from the Mariunum Pontifical School in Rome, explained this week the criteria used by the Church to determine the legitimacy of Marian apparitions. His explanation comes in the wake of the Church’s approval of the apparitions of Our Lady of Laus in France.

In an article for L’Osservatore Romano, Perrella cited Jesuit Father Giandomenico Mucci to explain the difference between a vision and an apparition.  The first is of a spiritual nature, while the second is of a physical one.  That is, the seer has a real and sensible experience of the one in the apparition.

After explaining the Church’s process for verifying Marian apparitions was discussed at the Lateran Council and the Council of Trent, Perrella explained that currently “discernment about the veracity” of alleged apparitions “falls to the diocesan bishop or archbishop—and in recent times to the episcopal conference in question—and to the Pope.”

He also pointed out that the “Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith drafted an internal and secret document on February 25, 1978, after four years of study, signed by the prefect Cardinal Franjo Seper to be used by the competent authorities” in evaluating supernatural occurrences.

Perrella went on to point out that the CDF instructed that for an investigation to proceed, “precise information” should be gathered about the various aspects of the alleged apparitions such as testimonies of conversions, theological analysis of the message of the apparitions, a medical and psychological review of the seer or visionary, including his or her educational level, an examination of their spiritual life, their level of communion with the Church, miraculous healings and occurrences, and other factors.

After a detailed examination of the numerous events related to apparitions, Perrella said, the Church “has approved a total of 11 apparitions out of 295 that have been studied—including now the 12th, which are those of Our Lady of Laus, approved on May 4, 2008.”

“Once verified and authenticated by Church authorities, the extraordinary manifestations may be freely embraced, as faith is reserved only to the public Revelation of God which ended with the death of the last Apostle,” he said.

In any case, Perrella stressed, the apparitions approved by the Church only manifest the evangelical mission of Mary throughout the history of the Church, which has been to point the way to the Father’s house through faith in the Lord Jesus.

Such revelations, while they help to increase faith, “do not add to the Revelation given to the Church in Sacred Scripture, but rather they help to make it current during a specific period in history,” he said.

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Yes, Pete, this does have a familiar right to it. This is wonderful news.
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If anyone gets a chance they should visit Luas. I was there last Oct. Totally uncommercialised and almost all signs and literature in French.
It is about half hour drive from Gap and about an hour from the beautiful shrine of La Sallette (but at a much lower altitude)
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Joe, if you know of an official website for the shrine at Laus, we can put it in the forum reference library, where we have a list of approved shrines. There are a few sites, but I am not sure which is the official one.

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The official website appears to be only en francais
http://www.notre-dame-du-laus.com/index.html
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"In an article for L’Osservatore Romano, Perrella cited Jesuit Father Giandomenico Mucci to explain the difference between a vision and an apparition. The first is of a spiritual nature, while the second is of a physical one. That is, the seer has a real and sensible experience of the one in the apparition."

Did anyone else on this forum know there was a difference? I didn't. I'm sure in many descriptions of such events the words vision and apparition have been used to mean the same event - am I mistaken - perhaps some events were a combination of both?

Another question; why has it taken so many years for the Vatican to express approval of the event and what triggered it?



(Edited because I was wandering of topic)
Edited by Derekap, Sunday, 5. April 2009, 17:09.
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