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The Dignity Of Women; 20th anniversary meeting
Topic Started: Friday, 8. February 2008, 19:55 (168 Views)
Lilo	Friday, 8. February 2008, 19:55 Post #1
Posts: 743 Group: Members Member #109 Joined: December 3, 2007	Yesterday I posted under ENCYCLICALS AND DOCUMENTS about the 20th anniversary of Mulieris Dignitatem, Pope John Paul’s document On The Dignity Of Women. But the reports coming from the meeting held in Rome this week to commemorate that anniversary should probably be placed in the Catholic Discussion thread. More people will likely read it here, and the anniversary meeting is, of course, neither an Encyclical nor a Church Document. http://www.ewtn.com/news/blog.asp?blog_ID=1 VATICAN MEETING ON THE DIGNITY OF WOMEN OPENS Joan Lewis Thursday, February 7, was the first day of the meeting organized by the Pontifical Council for the Laity to celebrate the 20th anniversary of Pope John Paul II’s Apostolic Letter “Mulieris Dignitatem (On the Dignity of Women).” This 1988 Letter was the first ever devoted by any Roman Pontiff solely to women. The international Congress has brought together over 260 participants from five continents, mostly women, as you might imagine. Each has her own story to tell about how she is serving the Church, how she is living what John Paul called on so many occasions “the feminine genius.” . . . To hear reports on the conference, listen to Vatican Insider – Saturday, Feb. 9, 9:30 AM Eastern Time / repeat Sunday Feb 10, 4:30 PM http://www.ewtn.com/radio/index.asp – available live or on podcasts (I think – I’ve never tried those) or http://avemariaradio.net/audioArchive.php Teresa Tomeo – Catholic Connections It’s the second hour we want each day, beginning Monday, Feb 11. Teresa promised lots of information and lots of enthusiasm. Her programs can be heard on demand on-line after her live broadcasts weekdays, 9:00 am Eastern time. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dignity of Women Report from the meeting: Apparently some 20 women from the USA are among the delegates from around the world. On Thursday one delegate from Boston, claiming to represent the United States of America, chose to ignore the topics under discussion to raise her own pet peeve: the ordination of women. She claimed there was a “different theology” and the Church should be open to it. Her statement apparently led to a slightly spicy exchange with another American delegate who couldn’t let that go. She brought up CCC § 1577 as well as John Paul II’s writing on the topic, and pointed out that the meeting was, and ought to be, focused on such issues as the anthropological background that leads to a deeper understanding of our roles as men & women and encouraged a diving into actual Church teaching. Friday’s sessions included a focus on life issues, providing the delegates with tools to aid them in going back to their countries and make a difference. Stay tuned!
	The root problem in a lot of bad catechesis is ultimately not ignorance, but pride. ~ Mark Shea


Lilo	Saturday, 9. February 2008, 02:16 Post #2
Posts: 743 Group: Members Member #109 Joined: December 3, 2007	Update from Joan's Blog: http://www.ewtn.com/news/blog.asp?blog_ID=1 Friday, February 08, 2008 "Today . . . the subjects covered in the morning session were “Woman and man, created each for the other,” “Problems and Contemporary Cultural Trends,” “The Reduction of Femininity to an Object of Consumerism,” “Gender Ideology,” ”The Devaluation of Motherhood and Family,” and “Women in the Workplace.” The topics and respective speakers were brilliant and I’d need much more time than I have at my disposition now to give you even a decent summary. . . Teresa {Tomeo} and I will be covering part of this Vatican meeting when we do Catholic Connection next Wednesday at about 9:10 (ET). " That's on Ave Maria radio, which you can find on-line at http://avemariaradio.net/audioArchive.php There's a choice of listening live or catching the archived program afterwards.
	The root problem in a lot of bad catechesis is ultimately not ignorance, but pride. ~ Mark Shea


Lilo	Saturday, 9. February 2008, 03:16 Post #3
Posts: 743 Group: Members Member #109 Joined: December 3, 2007	And: Al Kresta – Kresta in the Afternoon - Archive broadcast February 8, 2008 http://avemariaradio.net/archiveListen.php...=kpm_20080208_2 Most of this program deals with the current US primary/election issues, but about the last 10 minutes features Teresa Tomeo calling from Rome and explaining some of the “fun” she had with the lady from Boston. You can skip to Teresa's part if you don't want to listen to all the political stuff . . . although the news at the start are worth a few minutes of your time. In particular there's the boy who REALLY didn't want to go to school . . . .
	The root problem in a lot of bad catechesis is ultimately not ignorance, but pride. ~ Mark Shea


KatyA	Saturday, 9. February 2008, 15:01 Post #4
Administrator Posts: 5,391 Group: Admin Member #6 Joined: September 26, 2006	Helen Alvare, the former pro-life spokeswoman for the U.S. bishops' conference, and a law professor at the Catholic University of America in Washington, D.C. also addressed the Vatican conference "Woman and Man, the 'Humanum' in Its Entirety." Quote: "Even a secular observer would have to conclude that women's cooperation, even encouragement in the objectification of their bodies today, seems a modern manifestation of this inclination which Catholics call 'original sin.' Women debasing themselves in pursuit of the belief that it will lead to union with a man." "This is not confined to the pornography industry, or even to commercial advertising or films or television," Alvare underlined. "Rather, ordinary women across the continent buy clothing designed to emphasize or expose those parts of their bodies associated with sex. Many women often also debase themselves with their speech, or by exposing themselves to media which gradually desensitizes them to the proposal that women are beautiful, sexualized objects for consumption." Full report: ZENIT



Lilo	Monday, 11. February 2008, 02:47 Post #5
Posts: 743 Group: Members Member #109 Joined: December 3, 2007	http://www.zenit.org/article-21737?l=english Papal Address to Participants in Congress on Women "Recall the Design of God That Created the Human Being Male and Female" excerpts: . . . In the face of cultural and political currents that attempt to eliminate, or at least to obfuscate and confuse, the sexual differences written into human nature, considering them to be cultural constructions, it is necessary to recall the design of God that created the human being male and female, with a unity and at the same time an original and complementary difference. Human nature and the cultural dimension are integrated in an ample and complex process that constitutes the formation of the identity of each, where both dimensions – the feminine and the masculine – correspond to and complete each other. . . . There are certain places and cultures where women are discriminated against and undervalued just for the fact that they are women, where recourse is even had to religious arguments and family, social and cultural pressures to support the disparity between the sexes, w. . . acts of violence against women, make them into objects of abuse and exploitation in advertising and in the consumer and entertainment industries. . . . the commitment of Christians appears all the more urgent, so that they become everywhere the promoters of a culture that recognizes the dignity that belongs to women in law and in reality. . . . From the moment of their conception, children have a right to count on a father and a mother who care for them and accompany them in their growth. The state, for its part, must sustain with adequate social policies all that which promotes the stability of matrimony, the dignity and the responsibility of husband and wife, their right and irreplaceable duty to educate their children. Moreover, it is necessary that it be made possible for the woman to cooperate in the building-up of society, appreciating her typical "feminine genius.". . .
	The root problem in a lot of bad catechesis is ultimately not ignorance, but pride. ~ Mark Shea


Lilo	Monday, 11. February 2008, 16:38 Post #6
Posts: 743 Group: Members Member #109 Joined: December 3, 2007	Well, folks, Teresa's back from Rome and back behind the microphone. Make yourself a cup of tea - on second thought, a pot might be better - and go to http://avemariaradio.net/showArchive.php?id=cc February 11, 2008 Second Hour and treat yourself to Teresa Tomeo and Meg Meeker dissect the conference and the roles of men and women in our society. There's a lot there for men, too, in case you gentlemen wondered . . . after all, Meg Meeker is the author of (among others) Strong Fathers, Strong Daughters: 10 Secrets Every Father Should Know - The most important person in a young girl's life? Her father. Enjoy. :)
	The root problem in a lot of bad catechesis is ultimately not ignorance, but pride. ~ Mark Shea


Eve	Monday, 11. February 2008, 22:46 Post #7
Admin/Moderator Posts: 658 Group: Members Member #3 Joined: September 25, 2006	Lilo Feb 9 2008, 02:16 AM Update from Joan's Blog: http://www.ewtn.com/news/blog.asp?blog_ID=1 Friday, February 08, 2008 "Today . . . the subjects covered in the morning session were “Woman and man, created each for the other,” “Problems and Contemporary Cultural Trends,” “The Reduction of Femininity to an Object of Consumerism,” “Gender Ideology,” ”The Devaluation of Motherhood and Family,” and “Women in the Workplace.” Joanna Bogle has written more about the conference. auntie joanna writes Monday, February 11, 2008 Pope Benedict speaking to a conference of women in Rome this weekend. "There are certain places and cultures where women are discriminated against and undervalued just for the fact that they are women . . . Pope Benedict, speaking to a conference of women in Rome this weekend.
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Lilo	Tuesday, 12. February 2008, 01:48 Post #8
Posts: 743 Group: Members Member #109 Joined: December 3, 2007	Thanks for posting that, Eve. I was starting to wonder if no one else was interested . . . :rolleyes: There's more on Joan's Blog: http://www.ewtn.com/news/blog.asp?blog_ID=1 THE NOVELTY OF CHRISTIANITY: IT RECOGNIZES AND PROCLAIMS THE EQUAL DIGNITY OF MEN AND WOMEN Joan Lewis Monday, February 11, 2008 It has been an amazing and very special week for me, with much of it spent out of the office at the Vatican-sponsored conference on Pope John Paul’s Letter “Mulieris Dignitatem” (On the dignity of women), as you know from reading this column last week. . . . It was a period of re-affirmation in my faith, of my dignity as a woman, of the beauty of the special gifts that women have to offer the world . . . Pope Benedict Saturday . . . pointed out that “When men or women pretend to be autonomous or totally self-sufficient, they risk being closed up in a self-realization that considers the overcoming of every natural, social or religious bond as a conquest of freedom, but which in fact reduces them to an oppressive solitude. To foster and support the true promotion of women and men one cannot fail to take this reality (a reality he called “dual-unity) into account.” . . .
	The root problem in a lot of bad catechesis is ultimately not ignorance, but pride. ~ Mark Shea


KatyA	Tuesday, 23. September 2008, 15:33 Post #9
Administrator Posts: 5,391 Group: Admin Member #6 Joined: September 26, 2006	A further conference next week, marking the anniversary of the document will continue two decades of reflection on the letter's themes and tackle new challenges posed by contemporary society. The event, which will take place Oct. 3 at the John Paul II Cultural Center in Washington, D.C., is jointly sponsored by Ave Maria School of Law and the Catholic University of America Columbus School of Law. Quote: The conference's multidisciplinary panel of scholars will reflect on the nature and significance of the motherhood and consecrated life for contemporary society, the meaning of equality, and societal attempts to redress the disorder between men and women. In light of analyses about the human person that emerge from "Mulieris Dignitatem," scholars will address how these themes and current issues such as pornography, domestic violence and abortion legislation figure into American Constitutional law, international law, canon law and family law, including pornography, domestic violence and abortion legislation. While some would struggle to see the relevance of a highly theological text to the study of law, acting dean and associate professor of Ave Maria School of Law, Eugene Milhizer, explained that human law is inseparably linked to natural law: "The American legal culture is steeped in a superficial and partial account of the obligatory nature of the law, namely, that only human -- or positive -- law has full validity and is binding because it comes from a lawfully established human power. "Ultimately, as Blessed Antonio Rosmini once said, 'The human person is the essence of the law.'" In "Mulieris Dignitatem," Pope John Paul addressed the challenge of contemporary feminism with a theological reflection on the true meaning of womanhood, the vocation of women, and the role of women in the Church and in society. The letter, issued in 1988 on the occasion of the Marian Year, is written as a meditation on the Virgin Mary, the Mother of God, within the context of the mystery of Christ and the Church. Full report from Zenit



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