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Good Friday Prayers; Possible change in Prayers for Jews
Topic Started: Sunday, 20. January 2008, 22:06 (536 Views)
Clare	Tuesday, 25. March 2008, 16:43 Post #31
Wacko Schismatic Traditionalist Woman Posts: 3,083 Group: Members Member #70 Joined: March 27, 2007	Derekap Mar 25 2008, 04:35 PM Clare. I had to refer to an English version to try to understand the relevance of your quotation to the discussion and frankly I am no wiser. Derek. What I quoted was in English! :blink: And it shows what the relationship between Jews (of the religion) and Christians, from God's perspective. ... The elder shall serve the younger. 13 As it is written: Jacob I have loved, but Esau I have hated.
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Derekap	Tuesday, 25. March 2008, 17:24 Post #32
Posts: 3,406 Group: Members Member #14 Joined: September 26, 2006	Praps am higorant but am still no wiser! But then, not in this forum, I was once called an ignoramus - not by you Clare!
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Clare	Tuesday, 25. March 2008, 17:29 Post #33
Wacko Schismatic Traditionalist Woman Posts: 3,083 Group: Members Member #70 Joined: March 27, 2007	Derekap Mar 25 2008, 05:24 PM Praps am higorant but am still no wiser! Derek. You are an ignoramus! :D I've explained it already: The Jews are a special, unique case. That is why the prayer for their conversion is different from the prayers for others' conversions.
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Derekap	Tuesday, 25. March 2008, 20:37 Post #34
Posts: 3,406 Group: Members Member #14 Joined: September 26, 2006	"The Jews are a special, unique case." In the eyes of Almighty God, Clare, we are all, individually "a special unique case"!
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Clare	Tuesday, 25. March 2008, 20:47 Post #35
Wacko Schismatic Traditionalist Woman Posts: 3,083 Group: Members Member #70 Joined: March 27, 2007	Derekap Mar 25 2008, 08:37 PM "The Jews are a special, unique case." In the eyes of Almighty God, Clare, we are all, individually "a special unique case"! Can I expect you to deny that the Jews were the chosen people on account of the fact that we are all, individually, "a special unique case"?
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Derekap	Tuesday, 25. March 2008, 21:52 Post #36
Posts: 3,406 Group: Members Member #14 Joined: September 26, 2006	Sadly Clare, I give up. I can only come to the conclusion that you are stubbornly anti-Jewish.
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Clare	Tuesday, 25. March 2008, 22:15 Post #37
Wacko Schismatic Traditionalist Woman Posts: 3,083 Group: Members Member #70 Joined: March 27, 2007	Derekap Mar 25 2008, 09:52 PM Sadly Clare, I give up. I can only come to the conclusion that you are stubbornly anti-Jewish. I am anti-the Jewish religion! So is God! And the Jewish religion is anti-Christ, on account of its rejection of Him. It does not seem unreasonable for a pro-Christ Christian to be anti- an anti-Christ religion! You are stubbornly intransigent, Derek!
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Rose of York	Tuesday, 25. March 2008, 22:16 Post #38
Administrator Posts: 14,513 Group: Admin Member #2 Joined: September 25, 2006	Clare Mar 25 2008, 05:29 PM Derek. You are an ignoramus! :D Clare Mar 25 2008, 10:15 PM You are stubbornly intransigent, Derek! Worry about your pal Derek when he's perfidious!
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Rose of York	Tuesday, 25. March 2008, 22:20 Post #39
Administrator Posts: 14,513 Group: Admin Member #2 Joined: September 25, 2006	Clare can you please explain why we prayed for perfidious Jews, but not for perfidious protestants? The protestants rejected the One True Church.
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Clare	Tuesday, 25. March 2008, 22:51 Post #40
Wacko Schismatic Traditionalist Woman Posts: 3,083 Group: Members Member #70 Joined: March 27, 2007	Rose of York Mar 25 2008, 10:20 PM Clare can you please explain why we prayed for perfidious Jews, but not for perfidious protestants? The protestants rejected the One True Church. I thought I'd already explained. :(
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Patrick	Wednesday, 26. March 2008, 12:13 Post #41
Administrator Posts: 3,629 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: September 25, 2006	We are obliged to accept the legal force of this change once it is printed in the Acta Apostolicae Sedis. That is our duty as Catholics. Fortunately, this only means that we must accept it as a valid act of law and we are not bound by that law to even read the new prayer for the Jews. I personally think that the 1955 prayer for the Jews is more charitable towards them and is less ambiguous. Praying for the conversion of perfidious Jews is not anti-semitic, but an absolute act of true charity.



Clare	Wednesday, 26. March 2008, 12:26 Post #42
Wacko Schismatic Traditionalist Woman Posts: 3,083 Group: Members Member #70 Joined: March 27, 2007	Thank you, Patrick!
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Derekap	Wednesday, 26. March 2008, 17:11 Post #43
Posts: 3,406 Group: Members Member #14 Joined: September 26, 2006	"stubbornly intransigent," Yet another adjective to my list!
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