Germany To Bug Confessionals?

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Germany To Bug Confessionals?
Topic Started: Sunday, 20. January 2008, 12:29 (256 Views)
Michael	Sunday, 20. January 2008, 12:29 Post #1
Posts: 260 Group: Members Member #10 Joined: September 26, 2006	Got sent this link by a friend, a bit worrying if the Germans are serious, how long before Britain and the rest of Europe adopt this as a tool of combating terror crime and extremism, http://clericalwhispers.blogspot.com/2008/...ht-against.html



Rose of York	Sunday, 20. January 2008, 14:37 Post #2
Administrator Posts: 14,517 Group: Admin Member #2 Joined: September 25, 2006	At first I wondered whether this had originated in a chain email hoax. Having googled for further information I see Catholic World News reported it on 18th January, so one can assume it is true. Are the German Government so stupid they think confessions can be heard in confessional boxes? Priests and laity can meet where they wish, for confession. The security services would need to bug every tree in the church grounds, the walls, priests' garages, private homes, the whole presbytery, even bus stops.
	$Posted Image$ Catholic and proud of it! Talk to God before Mass. Talk to each other afterwards


PJD	Sunday, 20. January 2008, 16:19 Post #3
Posts: 2,416 Group: Members Member #11 Joined: September 26, 2006	Might bring back priest's hide holes. They would also have to have cameras in order to read anything written rather than said. And for sign language would have to have experts viewing. PJD



John Sweeney	Sunday, 20. January 2008, 16:58 Post #4
Posts: 1,834 Group: Members Member #68 Joined: March 20, 2007	And as the Faithful have largely dispensed with Confession it is unlikely to yield much of interest to the police. john



Michael	Sunday, 20. January 2008, 18:35 Post #5
Posts: 260 Group: Members Member #10 Joined: September 26, 2006	In my experience of smaller parishes it is not the faithful who have dispensed with the sacrament of reconcillation but the clergy, and if you want your confession heard you will be taken to the side where any passerby will hear it, so the secret police can rest assured that they wont have to spend a fortune on listening devices but just ask the green cardigan brigade what was said, as no doubt it will her that is passing by



Quicunque vult	Sunday, 20. January 2008, 18:40 Post #6
Posts: 484 Group: Members Member #86 Joined: May 18, 2007	The notion of Al Quaeda members turning up at the confessional seems a shade improbable to me. There is clearly another agenda at work here. QV



Lilo	Sunday, 20. January 2008, 19:34 Post #7
Posts: 743 Group: Members Member #109 Joined: December 3, 2007	Quicunque vult Jan 20 2008, 11:40 AM The notion of Al Quaeda members turning up at the confessional seems a shade improbable to me. There is clearly another agenda at work here. My thoughts exactly. Perhaps Germans ought to start confessing in Latin . . . and mumble a bit . . . set up electronic signals to scramble whatever the snoops might get . . .
	The root problem in a lot of bad catechesis is ultimately not ignorance, but pride. ~ Mark Shea


Derekap	Sunday, 20. January 2008, 21:43 Post #8
Posts: 3,408 Group: Members Member #14 Joined: September 26, 2006	Can one confess in tongues?
	Derekap


Lilo	Sunday, 20. January 2008, 21:50 Post #9
Posts: 743 Group: Members Member #109 Joined: December 3, 2007	Derekap Jan 20 2008, 02:43 PM Can one confess in tongues? Who'll interpret?
	The root problem in a lot of bad catechesis is ultimately not ignorance, but pride. ~ Mark Shea


MickCook	Monday, 21. January 2008, 18:27 Post #10
Posts: 633 Group: Members Member #18 Joined: September 26, 2006	Quicunque vult Jan 20 2008, 06:40 PM The notion of Al Quaeda members turning up at the confessional seems a shade improbable to me. There is clearly another agenda at work here. QV German Intelligence learned that after hearing that Anglicans were converting to the Catholic faith, Osama bin Ladin decided to attend RCIA classes in Berlin. They applied to the courts to have all the confessionals buged so they could record his first confession. Osama had ordered all Moslems in Tora Bora to convert, causing a mass exodus of Moslems to Germany (they had heard that the Pope is German). If you believe any of this then you are as nuts as me.
	:) Mick The Cook Companies


Karin	Tuesday, 22. January 2008, 14:26 Post #11
Karin Posts: 825 Group: Members Member #9 Joined: September 26, 2006	Don't the German Police have anything better to do than to bug confessionals? How ridiculous would this be? The German citizens' tax dollars at work....NOT.
	Karin Hvaljen Isus i Marija. Kraljica Mira, moli za nas. "Praised be Jesus and Mary. Queen of Peace, Pray for Us."


sumermamma	Wednesday, 30. January 2008, 00:57 Post #12
Posts: 431 Group: Members Member #71 Joined: March 30, 2007	Karin, Since reestablishing the SS would send off bells and whistles, it's easier just to place "bugs." sm



Rose of York	Wednesday, 30. January 2008, 01:04 Post #13
Administrator Posts: 14,517 Group: Admin Member #2 Joined: September 25, 2006	We could always dunk the bugs in holy water to muffle the sounds. Better still priests could make CD's of Green Cardigan's voice saying "I sinned. I fitted a bug in the police station so I could spy on the cops." Put that inside a confessional, play it while the priest is in the presbytery doing his paperwork.
	$Posted Image$ Catholic and proud of it! Talk to God before Mass. Talk to each other afterwards


MickCook	Wednesday, 30. January 2008, 01:35 Post #14
Posts: 633 Group: Members Member #18 Joined: September 26, 2006	I would prefer to find the bug, place a mini tape recorder near it playing endless recordings of Spike Milligan's "Goon Show" specially translated into German, complete with the original voices, sounds and special effects. If it doesn't persuade them to abandon the idea, it'll drive 'em nuts! I know - I use to listen to the Goon Show.
	:) Mick The Cook Companies


DeniseLawson	Saturday, 2. February 2008, 16:46 Post #15
Posts: 113 Group: Members Member #129 Joined: December 21, 2007	Oh, yeah - like Christian extremism is really a problem they need to worry about. Sounds like just the latest anti-Catholic kink in the liberal hate agenda. Bet they wouldn't dare bug the mosques that are increasing in number in that country.



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