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Angry Profs Protest Pope's Visit University
Topic Started: Tuesday, 15. January 2008, 02:04 (371 Views)
Lilo	Tuesday, 15. January 2008, 02:04 Post #1
Posts: 743 Group: Members Member #109 Joined: December 3, 2007	It looks like some professors have forgotten how, why and by whom the concept of a university originated. http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=55934 Vatican, Jan. 14, 2008 (CWNews.com) - A group of Italian academics have protested plans for a visit by Pope Benedict XVI to a leading university in Rome, charging that the Pope should not be honored in an academic setting because he has shown hostility toward scientific advance. . . The dean of the university has said that he will not cancel the Pope's visit. But protests at the school are planned throughout the week, with critics posting anti-clerical slogans around the campus and organizing a "homo-cession"-- a parade of hom osex uals and lesb ians -- to protest Church teachings. ~~~~~~~~ Now there's scientific advance for you.
	The root problem in a lot of bad catechesis is ultimately not ignorance, but pride. ~ Mark Shea


Paduan	Tuesday, 15. January 2008, 11:36 Post #2
Posts: 205 Group: Members Member #108 Joined: December 2, 2007	This is bizarre. As far as I can remember, the Pope - one who is particularly known for his qualities as an academician! - has spoken of his respect for science. Clearly science and God can co-exist. You can't have science without God! People challenging our faith is all very well - the intellectual exercise in defending it only helps us strengthen it - but they make themselves pitifully grubby when they lie about their motives for doing so.
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KatyA	Tuesday, 15. January 2008, 13:01 Post #3
Administrator Posts: 5,391 Group: Admin Member #6 Joined: September 26, 2006	Paduan Jan 15 2008, 11:36 AM People challenging our faith is all very well - the intellectual exercise in defending it only helps us strengthen it - but they make themselves pitifully grubby when they lie about their motives for doing so. The protesters seem to hang their collective hat on remarks made in a speech in 1990 in which the Holy Father quoted an Austrian philosopher saying the Galileo trial was "rational and just" "He (Card.Ratzinger) expressed a different position, distancing himself from that belief and absolutely not adopting it as his own," wrote conservative newspaper Il Giornale, after republishing a transcript of the speech.Reuters And these protesters are supposed to be intelligent? Apparently they can't even read. KatyA



PJD	Tuesday, 15. January 2008, 18:28 Post #4
Posts: 2,416 Group: Members Member #11 Joined: September 26, 2006	Professors of what? Theoretical or applied or none of these?? PJD



Lilo	Tuesday, 15. January 2008, 19:08 Post #5
Posts: 743 Group: Members Member #109 Joined: December 3, 2007	PJD Jan 15 2008, 11:28 AM Professors of what? The latest: http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=55973 Amid protests, Pope cancels university appearance Rome, Jan. 15, 2008 (CWNews.com) - Pope Benedict XVI has canceled plans to visit La Sapienza university in Rome, in light of angry protests by faculty and students there. . . . Physics professor Andrea Frova had launched a protest against the Pope's appearance . . . protests on campus have mounted during the past week, prompting fears of an ugly confrontation and raising concerns about security during the papal visit. . . . .
	The root problem in a lot of bad catechesis is ultimately not ignorance, but pride. ~ Mark Shea


KatyA	Tuesday, 15. January 2008, 19:57 Post #6
Administrator Posts: 5,391 Group: Admin Member #6 Joined: September 26, 2006	That is really disappointing and very surprising. I suspect it was not Pope Benedict's own decision. KatyA



KatyA	Tuesday, 15. January 2008, 20:16 Post #7
Administrator Posts: 5,391 Group: Admin Member #6 Joined: September 26, 2006	From the Time/CNN site Quote: The Pope's opponents burst out in celebration at the east Rome campus when reached with the news of the cancellation. The Vatican released a statement saying it now viewed the visit as "inopportune" in light of protests they say could damage the pontiff's image. But by backing out under pressure from his secular foes, the 80-year-old Pope may yet have the last word in this battle over the meaning of "reason" in today's intellectual debate. For the whiff of censorship toward a figure who is welcomed in myriad settings across the world � both for his position and his intellect � may offer ammunition for Benedict's belief that he is something of a "Pope under siege" in the face of the prevailing secular winds of his times. Quote: In the same Regensberg lecture that criticized Islam for lacking a fundamental belief in reason, the Pope was also sending a warning to the West that reason itself was suffocating faith and destroying its historical identity. By offering himself up as victim of the La Sapienza professors he can cite further evidence for this argument right in his own backyard. http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8...1703692,00.html KatyA



Lilo	Tuesday, 15. January 2008, 20:18 Post #8
Posts: 743 Group: Members Member #109 Joined: December 3, 2007	KatyA Jan 15 2008, 12:57 PM That is really disappointing and very surprising. I suspect it was not Pope Benedict's own decision. KatyA I suspect he has sense enough to not give their pettiness the sort of publicity they're seeking. Instead, according to the article, he will just release the speech he would have given. Of course it will now draw a lot more attention than it would have otherwise. I'm proud of our Pope! :)
	The root problem in a lot of bad catechesis is ultimately not ignorance, but pride. ~ Mark Shea


KatyA	Tuesday, 15. January 2008, 20:24 Post #9
Administrator Posts: 5,391 Group: Admin Member #6 Joined: September 26, 2006	We must have posted simultaneously :D The Time article shares your view, and now I've calmed down, I can see you may be right. KatyA



John Sweeney	Tuesday, 15. January 2008, 20:53 Post #10
Posts: 1,834 Group: Members Member #68 Joined: March 20, 2007	Understandable that they might want to protest for whatever reason but despicable that they should rejoice in the cancellation of the speech and their imposed censorship. Vatican cancellation is understandabe --we are talking about an 80 year old man here and facing protests is no fun even for a younger person. John.



Lilo	Tuesday, 15. January 2008, 21:27 Post #11
Posts: 743 Group: Members Member #109 Joined: December 3, 2007	KatyA Jan 15 2008, 01:24 PM We must have posted simultaneously :D Great minds think alike, as you know.
	The root problem in a lot of bad catechesis is ultimately not ignorance, but pride. ~ Mark Shea


Rose of York	Tuesday, 15. January 2008, 21:28 Post #12
Administrator Posts: 14,517 Group: Admin Member #2 Joined: September 25, 2006	It would not surprise me if the Pope cancelled the visit for the sake of other people, who could be injured if this demonstration gets out of hand.
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CARLO	Tuesday, 15. January 2008, 21:50 Post #13
Posts: 1,687 Group: Members Member #27 Joined: September 28, 2006	I heard this ridiculous 'story' on the radio the other day. It is the usual mish mash of anti-catholicism, poor journalism, sensationalism and downright mischief making. Galileo said the world was round. The Church made him recant. Galileo was right and the Church got it wrong. The Holy Father having said a few positive things about Galileo (who gets it right all of the time anyway?) is lambasted by some anti-clerical Italian academics for being a 'flat earth' man and therefore an imbecile! As Shakespeare's Prince Fluellen might have remarked in desperation: "IN YOUR CONSCIENCE NOW!" :rolleyes: De profundis For goodness sake CARLO
	Judica me Deus


PJD	Tuesday, 15. January 2008, 21:56 Post #14
Posts: 2,416 Group: Members Member #11 Joined: September 26, 2006	"lambasted by some anti-clerical Italian academics for being a 'flat earth' man and therefore an imbecile!" True imbeciles must surely go to heaven. So some hope for the Italian academics. PJD



KatyA	Tuesday, 15. January 2008, 22:19 Post #15
Administrator Posts: 5,391 Group: Admin Member #6 Joined: September 26, 2006	Quote: Giorgio Israel, a Jewish mathematician and professor at the university, noted in L'Osservatore Romano that the 1990 speech actually defended Galileo. Cardinal Ratzinger said at that time, "Faith does not grow from a resentment and refusal of rationalism, but from its basic affirmation." Israel lamented the contradiction of those who have opposed Benedict XVI's visit, who are purportedly defending the secularism of science, but are also negating the freedom of speech. The L'Osservatore Romano article was published before the Vatican announced today that the Pontiff would postpone the visit. "It is surprising," the mathematician said, "that those who have chosen as a motto Voltaire's famous phrase, 'I don�t agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it,' oppose themselves to the Pope pronouncing a discourse at the university of Rome." Zenit The protests had nothing whatsoever to do with Galileo or with science. KatyA



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