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| Beatification "imminent" For Cardinal Newman | |
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| Topic Started: Thursday, 10. January 2008, 00:40 (1,108 Views) | |
| Gerard | Sunday, 12. October 2008, 19:11 Post #61 |
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Much as I hope to see Cardinal Newman canonised, I greet with glee his master stroke of arranging for speedy decomposition. One last detail from a brilliant mind. Nothing peculiarly English about it. I believe St Clare arranged for her body to be hidden by her sisters. She was only partially successful. None of these individuals desire this public display. They want to rest in peace - as everyone else does. Gerry |
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| Gerard | Sunday, 12. October 2008, 19:13 Post #62 |
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P.S. Was the delay connected to his opposition to the declaration of papal infallibility? Gerry |
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| John Sweeney | Monday, 13. October 2008, 11:30 Post #63 |
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Carlo and Rose I can see your point about identifying otherwise unknown "saintly" lives to inspire the rest of us. My point is that this could be achieved without the time-consuming canonisation process. Why not a report by the local hierarchy to Rome describing the virtues of the person concerned whereupon Rome could authorise or deny publicity for the virtuous life in question? Why do we need a tortuous sainthood process involving so many people in such time-consuming work--and which at its worst can lead to acrimony? John |
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| Rose of York | Monday, 13. October 2008, 13:55 Post #64 |
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Search me, John. The life of Margaret Sinclair is well documented. She was born in 1900 and died in 1925. There are people alive, who knew her. http://sinclair.quarterman.org/who/margaret_b_1900.html Blessed Nicholas Postgate: http://www.catholic-history.org.uk/postgate.htm
Some martyrs were canonised, some were not. The process proceeds from Venerable to Blessed then to full Sainthood. What more do they need to discover about Father Postgate? Never mind, at least he has a pub named after him, and that accolade is unique to him. The pub is in the centre of his parish. http://www.postgateinn.com/ |
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| OsullivanB | Monday, 13. October 2008, 14:40 Post #65 |
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Blssed Dominic Barberi, who received Newman into the Church. |
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| KatyA | Wednesday, 15. October 2008, 19:19 Post #66 |
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Pastor in Valle has some more news concerning the beatification of Cardinal Newman
Valle Adurni Interesting note that - about St Philip Neri. KatyA |
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| John Sweeney | Wednesday, 15. October 2008, 21:39 Post #67 |
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Thanks KatyA, the article you quote puts the case more eloquently than I managed --why bother trying to make him a saint when we already know he was a giant of the Church? presumably as this US case has now been disallowed we will start the whole business of scouring the world for some miracle which can be attributed to the Cardinal. All a huge waste of time and resources to my way of thinking. John |
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| Emee | Wednesday, 15. October 2008, 21:47 Post #68 |
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It takes a long time John but I still find the process fascinating! |
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| CARLO | Thursday, 16. October 2008, 21:29 Post #69 |
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It is a very Catholic business. Still if we in the UK were better advocates of our candidates for Sainthood things would get done a little faster I am sure. Oremus CARLO |
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| KatyA | Friday, 17. October 2008, 11:37 Post #70 |
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Another update from Pastor in Valle
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| Rose of York | Monday, 22. June 2009, 00:13 Post #71 |
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The miracle required for the beatification, has been approved. http://www.indcatholicnews.com/news.php?viewStory=14507
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| Deleted User | Monday, 22. June 2009, 09:29 Post #72 |
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I hope this will mean that we can now move forward with not only the Canonisation of JH Newman but also refocus attention on people like Ullathorne, Wiseman and in more recent times Heenan and Hume. Ullathorne and Hume in particular through their Benedictine spirituality did much to bring the Catholic Church into the less confrontational position with the English establishment and so enabled a positive growth of Catholicism in England. Newman’s canonisation is overdue and I am happy that it is at last making progress but I am conscious that he may have distracted attention from the others. |
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| CARLO | Monday, 22. June 2009, 17:53 Post #73 |
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Dear me Penfold! If it moved any slower poor old Newman would be canonized on the Last Day! Libera nos Deliver us! CARLO |
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| OsullivanB | Monday, 22. June 2009, 21:05 Post #74 |
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Hardly poor old Newman - ex hypothesi he no longer cares, being entirely captivated by the beatific vision. |
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| Rose of York | Monday, 22. June 2009, 21:53 Post #75 |
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I just cannot get my head around the idea of Cardinal Heenan being a canonised saint! I knew him, he used to call at our school and give informal talks, he used to ride past our bus stop in Leeds on his bike, always gave the schoolgirls and boys at the stop a smile and a blessing, with one hand on the handlebars and one making a little sign of the cross, my mother helped him write a book for the benefit of secondary school pupils. He wore purple socks, just like the Teddy boys! My illusion that saints are ascetics live in another dimension, would be shattered! Saints don't chain their bikes to railings outside Cathedrals. Seriously though, John Carmel Heenan was a good and holy man, close to his flock, he left a fine example of love, prayer and dedication to vocation, and boosted the image of Catholicism in England, following the years of rejection and bigotry. He was a fine ambassador for the Church. |
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