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Study Our Faith Deeply, Or Keep It Simple?
Topic Started: Sunday, 16. December 2007, 01:27 (319 Views)
Karin
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Mick and I discussed this the other evening. We find, for us, that with all the complexities of this earthly life, our faith sustains us even more and for us, we find great strength in study. As others have mentioned, the Church is an amasing treasure trove of knowledge and wisdom. And it's all there for us - to read, to study, to learn from. It's all a matter of personal preference, need and time. For us, it's all of those. It's also a great comfort having all this knowledge at our fingertips when we need it.
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Rose of York
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Gerard
Dec 17 2007, 06:38 PM
What services do the laity want to hold that they are not allowed to hold Rose?


Rather than risk this thread diverting I will refer you to a thread where this is discussed.

It is my fault for posting as I did.

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Karin
Dec 17 2007, 10:37 PM
Mick and I discussed this the other evening. We find, for us, that with all the complexities of this earthly life, our faith sustains us even more and for us, we find great strength in study. As others have mentioned, the Church is an amasing treasure trove of knowledge and wisdom. And it's all there for us - to read, to study, to learn from. It's all a matter of personal preference, need and time. For us, it's all of those. It's also a great comfort having all this knowledge at our fingertips when we need it.

I would add to Karin's thoughts that the Faith is rather simple: to follow the Gospel of Jesus Christ; to love God and to love one's neighbour as oneself.

Complexity derives from the demands of the world in which we live - a world that is ever changing. How should the Church respond to technology? How should the Church respond to Islam? How should the Church respond to Environmental issues? How should the Church respond to genetic manipulation? Fifty years ago these and other questions would not have been asked, a hundred years ago they would not have even been considered. Today these matters are important to many people both within and outside of the Church and answers are expected.

The central requirement to love God and each other does not change and this is always at the heart of our thinking - or at least it should be.
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shana buck, sfo
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I think it marvelous that the Church allows each individual to grow intellectually and encourages the use of reason (officially, if not by every priest and bishop)

To be in the Church that produced the Fathers who wrote with eloquence and fire on the Faith, and the martyrs who suffered horrible tortures and died for the Gospel, who brought kings and paupers to the heights of holiness, not in a formula but in the capabilities of the individual. Sts Dominic and Francis could hardly be more different in intellect - Dominic an intellecutal and Francis a poet and dreamer, both contemporaries, both battled heresy, but one through great study and in use of reason, and the other through total abandonment to Lady Poverty and in song and elaborate fasting and penances. Yet both reached great heights of holiness in the abilities God gave them.

I find that I go through phases of great study, and then long bouts of not reading, mostly absorbing or working out what I've read. There are some parts of the Faith I do not really understand much more than on a very basic level, and others I have studied very deeply. But the fact that there are writings from the likes of Bl Marmion and Fulton Sheen, StsTeresa of Avila and Therese of Liseaux, Aquinas and de Sales etc - and those kind enough to break their work down in smaller bites in bulletins and homilies, books and articles - means that there is something suitable for any level of intellect, including those whose intellect is damaged or limited. And the greatest study of the Faith itself is prayer, especially the Rosary, because all the intellect and study in the world is utterly pointless without also developing an active prayer life in one form or another and the reception of the Sacraments. That is the only way to take what is in the head and allow the Lord to plant it firmly in the heart.

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Clare
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Dec 18 2007, 02:50 AM
Complexity derives from the demands of the world in which we live - a world that is ever changing. How should the Church respond to technology? How should the Church respond to Islam? How should the Church respond to Environmental issues? How should the Church respond to genetic manipulation? Fifty years ago these and other questions would not have been asked, a hundred years ago they would not have even been considered.

Except for the issue of how the Church should respond to Islam.
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PJD

Study deeply and try to keep it simple? Yes...

Differences in translation and, even more so in interpretation, have always proved to be obstacles standing in the way of easy discussion [no doubt one of the side effects of ‘Babel’].

Community (& forum) opinion is first and foremost made up of a collection of individualistic perspectives bound together with a common bond ‘for the good’. Resolving, or rather discussing, differences is to my mind the life-blood of religious apologetics. [‘Cleverness’ is an inappropriate attribution here].

Personally I think that the first consideration upon reading Vatican texts (or any others come to that) is not what the words are saying in general – that is to you in common with others – but what they might be saying to you in particular. This is after all what all of us do whilst listening to and absorbing Mass readings, homilies, etc.

What the Pope says, first to himself and thereupon to others, is not necessarily that which, through his words, the Spirit may or may not be asking you to pay particular attention to.

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