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Chapter 7
And concerning baptism, baptize this way: Having first said all these things, baptize into the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, in living water. But if you have no living water, baptize into other water; and if you cannot do so in cold water, do so in warm. But if you have neither, pour out water three times upon the head into the name of Father and Son and Holy Spirit. But before the baptism let the baptizer fast, and the baptized, and whoever else can; but you shall order the baptized to fast one or two days before.

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394h [21] At dawn a pray shall be offered over the water.  Where there is no scarcity of water the stream shall flow through the baptismal font or pour into it from above; but if water is scarce, whether as a constant condition or on occasion, then use whatever water is available.
Let them remove their clothing.  Baptise first the children; and if they can speak for themselves, let them do so.  Otherwise, let their parents or other relatives speak for them.  Next, baptise the men, and last of all the women.  The later must first let down their hair and put aside any gold or silver ornaments they may be wearing.  Let no one take any foreign object into the water with him.

Rose of York

Sep 28 2006, 06:11 PM

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1 Do parents still have to attend a Baptism preparation course?


2 Some people have the baby baptised, and no intention of darkening the church door until they have another baby. Why do they bother?

Derekap

Feb 17 2007, 09:04 PM

I have always thought that the term "Christening" was more popular with non-Catholics than "Baptism" but in fact refers to Baptism.

jimc1

May 2 2007, 11:00 PM

It seems to me that many Christians actually believe that this magic holy water actually washes away the stain of original sin-

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XII. EFFECTS OF BAPTISM

This sacrament is the door of the Church of Christ and the entrance into a new life. We are reborn from the state of slaves of sin into the freedom of the Sons of God. Baptism incorporates us with Christ's mystical body and makes us partakers of all the privileges flowing from the redemptive act of the Church's Divine Founder. We shall now outline the principal effects of baptism.

(1) The Remission of All Sin, Original and Actual
This is clearly contained in the Bible. Thus we read (Acts 2:38): "Be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ, for the remission of your sins; and you shall receive the Holy Ghost. For the promise is to you and to your children and to all that are far off, whomsoever the Lord our God shall call." We read also in the twenty-second chapter of the Acts of the Apostles (verse 16):

Be baptized, and wash away thy sins." St. Paul in the fifth chapter of his Epistle to the Ephesians beautifully represents the whole Church as being baptized and purified (5:25 sq.): "Christ loved the Church, and delivered Himself up for it: that he might sanctify it, cleansing it by the washing of water in the word of life: that he might present it to Himself a glorious Church, not having spot or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

The prophecy of Ezechiel (36:25) has also been understood of baptism: "I will pour upon you clean water, and you shall be cleansed from all your filthiness (inquinamentis), where the prophet is unquestionably speaking of moral defilements.

This is also the solemn teaching of the Church. In the profession of faith prescribed by Pope Innocent III for the Waldensians in 1210, we read: We believe that all sins are remitted in baptism, both original sin and those sins which have been voluntarily committed." The Council of Trent (Sess. V., can. v) anathematizes whomsoever denies that the grace of Christ which is conferred in baptism does not remit the guilt of original sin; or asserts that everything which can truly and properly be called sin is not thereby taken away.
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Clare

May 2 2007, 10:36 PM

jimc1

May 2 2007, 11:00 PM

It seems to me that many Christians actually believe that this magic holy water actually washes away the stain of original sin-

Any water will do. In fact, I think it usually isn't Holy Water.

And it does wash away Original, and actual sin. It's what the Church teaches!

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XII. EFFECTS OF BAPTISM

This sacrament is the door of the Church of Christ and the entrance into a new life. We are reborn from the state of slaves of sin into the freedom of the Sons of God. Baptism incorporates us with Christ's mystical body and makes us partakers of all the privileges flowing from the redemptive act of the Church's Divine Founder. We shall now outline the principal effects of baptism.

(1) The Remission of All Sin, Original and Actual
This is clearly contained in the Bible. Thus we read (Acts 2:38): "Be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ, for the remission of your sins; and you shall receive the Holy Ghost. For the promise is to you and to your children and to all that are far off, whomsoever the Lord our God shall call." We read also in the twenty-second chapter of the Acts of the Apostles (verse 16):

Be baptized, and wash away thy sins." St. Paul in the fifth chapter of his Epistle to the Ephesians beautifully represents the whole Church as being baptized and purified (5:25 sq.): "Christ loved the Church, and delivered Himself up for it: that he might sanctify it, cleansing it by the washing of water in the word of life: that he might present it to Himself a glorious Church, not having spot or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

The prophecy of Ezechiel (36:25) has also been understood of baptism: "I will pour upon you clean water, and you shall be cleansed from all your filthiness (inquinamentis), where the prophet is unquestionably speaking of moral defilements.

This is also the solemn teaching of the Church. In the profession of faith prescribed by Pope Innocent III for the Waldensians in 1210, we read: We believe that all sins are remitted in baptism, both original sin and those sins which have been voluntarily committed." The Council of Trent (Sess. V., can. v) anathematizes whomsoever denies that the grace of Christ which is conferred in baptism does not remit the guilt of original sin; or asserts that everything which can truly and properly be called sin is not thereby taken away.
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It seems to me that many Christians actually believe that this magic holy water actually washes away the stain of original sin-I dont

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and,therefore always believed that infants and little children had a greater chance of heaven for did HE not say "unless ye become as little children"etc-jimc

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Therefore, brothers, stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught, either by an oral statement or by a letter of ours.

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In regard to Baptism - baptize thus:  After the foregoing instructions, baptize in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, in living water.  If you have no living water, then baptize in other water; and if you are not able in cold, then in warm.

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At dawn prayer shall be offered over the water.  Where there is no scarcity of water the stream shall flow through the bapismal font or pour into it from above; but if water is scarce, whether as a constant condition or on occasion, then use whatever water is available.
  Let them remove their clothing.  Baptise first the children; and if they can speak for themselves let them do so.  Otherwise, let their parents or other relatives speak for them.  Next, baptise the men and last of all the women.  The latter must let down their hair and put aside any gold or silver ornaments they may be wearing.  Let no one take any foreign object into the water with him...